really great fork with the forms

Hi! You're setting a good foundation with three-dimensional forms, so nice work :) There are a few pointers I hope are useful to you going forward: - Snowman effect: Following the natural curvature of the human body, there is more of a back and forth rhythm between limbs, as opposed to a symmetrical pinching at the joints. It can be useful to find this first in gesture before laying in the cylinders. I've attached a quick sketch below to further illustrate this. - In #1's original reference, her torso appears to be more curved outwards, with most of the volume appearing forward enough to be on the other side of her arm. Right now, it seems to be missing both that forward gesture and the volume that would make it feel three-dimensional. It seems you got a better hang of it with the next attempts though, but keep in mind using gesture to lay in your initial stage--and assessing it as well, using the relationship between parts to compare (e.g. the arm's position by the torso). - Feet: Here in the demo, the feet are simplified into their gesture, but if you want to add more structure to them, you could use a triangular "wedge" shape. - Neck: Careful with too thick of a neck, especially on women. #2 and #3 seem correct in size, but #1 should be about 2/3rds of the current width. Hope this helps! :)

So, this is your brain tricking you into making the body wider because it tapers away from you. I had to draw it three times before I got it right. Her ribcage is nearly upright in her seated position, which is not what we usually see (The ribcage tilts back and the pelvis forward when we stand upright). Also, her pelvic bucket tilts slightly back in this pose because Sekka is seated. Retry in this order and priority. I'm interested to see if the second try is easier: #01. Gesture #02. Robo-bean #03. Volume

Hey, just wanted to compliment you on your super clean and accurate linework and mannequinization. Seems that we are working on this topic at the same time, I'm wondering where you find your poses? Best of luck to you, let's keep going :D

your gesture and structure is awesome! the proportion of some of your limbs seem off however, maybe try and improve proportions

well done really working on the torso until you were satisfied. that part was super tricky for me.

my instinct after stuffing my head with anatomy was to go back to gesture, just to make sure I had the whole spectrum covered. Figure drawing is such an art, so many components to master...

Hi @joseph_maxwell, nice drawings! There's a lot of good stuff going on in these. I think the last one is really well simplified! - You seem to understand the concepts of 3D form and gesture, I would say that what you need to do now is to become more fluent in them. Something about the line quality and the loss of gesture in 2nd drawing (note how the c-curve from left leg to left arm is much stronger in the photo), tell me that gesture and form could be come more intuitively ingrained. I would recommend revisiting the gesture quicksketch exercise. The gesture exercise was were I grew familiar with the human figure and my pencil. I find this to be the most important exercise in the course, upon which everything builds. Post your drawings and tag me, and I might be able to help :) I would also recommend practicing drawing cylinders and boxes from different angles. The point is to get really comfortable with them so that you can focus on analyzing the form when drawing the figure instead of how to draw a box correctly. Remember to draw through the forms, especially on a cylinder so that the crosscontours are proper ellipses (Structure Basics – Making Things Look 3D 07:56). Hope this helps :) Keep up the good work! PS I attached an image with some pracitice tips that helped me a lot when I took the course. Hopefully they can be useful to you too :)