Critique - 8 Step Method
Critique - 8 Step Method
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Head Drawing and Construction

Perspective Forms of the Face and Features

Critique - 8 Step Method

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Critique - 8 Step Method

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Michael Hampton
Let's take a look over your 8 Step Method project submissions to see what is working and what can be improved. We’ll review some of the most common mistakes like proportions, form intersections, perspective, wrapping lines, and feature placement.
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Josh Fiddler
In some of these in this critique, particularly the ones done traditionally, it will help the student to draw them larger. Judging by the width of the marks versus the size of the study, they look fairly small. I say this because as you add layers of information, or make a mistake, it gets a lot harder to keep it clear in your mind, or give you room to modify later without it getting darker and heavier. Critique 10 for example. I understand the reasons for drawing smaller. When I was starting out, I'd struggle to get a good circle and a clean curved line for larger sketches. It'd get wobbly as all hell. That's why I do a 10=15 minute warm up before drawing to loosen up the shoulder and get the wobbles out there. Practice makes progress! Here's my notes, focusing on on where I get things confused or don't quite nail it. Hopefully it's helpful to others.
@stevesaxenian
Hi, I am looking for a good collection of reference portrait photos. It looks like others are using Proko model photos but I cannot find them. Are they available for subscribers to this course?
Josh Fiddler
You can try the Proko Timer, (https://www.proko.com/timer) for timed sessions. It should be accessible from your "My Classroom" tab on your profile. Looks like there are lots of samplers you can use for free. Otherwise, pinterest is a good spot.
Kalvin Carducci
Hi, first time submitting! Those are by no means perfects. I feel very inconsistent, sometimes I'm satisfied, but most of the time I really don't like how they turn out. It seems like I understand the basics but have a hard time applying it correctly each time. I struggle a lot to place the temporal fossa as well as the “eyes visor” and the keystone. Critics are welcomed, thanks :)
Josh Fiddler
Don't sweat the perfection. Keep iterating! Keep zeroing in on your challenges. These are solid!
Paul Williams
Some of today’s pieces. Since my last update I would say I have identified why some faces were coming out too long and fixed that, now I think I need to work a bit on the profile views otherwise I’m happy with my progress. Any comments or tips are more than welcome, thanks.
Michael Hampton
Looking good!
@rtpowell
2mo
My temporal plane, the elliptical or circular shape I get from hair line tempel and nose line is always out of wack. Not a neat circle or ellipsis any advice would be great
Josh Fiddler
My input, and I could be totally wrong, but this looks a bit rushed through the steps trying to get to the result. If you don't already, before getting into the studies proper, take ten minutes and a piece of scrap paper (anything will do), and practice ellipses, circles, straight lines, c- and s-curves. Vary lengths, direction, etc. If you're not familiar with the concept of "ghosting" lines, look it up, (proko's drawing basics is a fantastic resource). In terms of what's there, it looks like a view from below, so I'd expect to see more of the underside of the jaw and the connection to the neck tube. At each set of stages, (he breaks down the steps into logical groups that make sense), pause and reflect on what you've done, correct anything that looks off before moving on. As we build on top of prior steps, if the early one's aren't right, the later ones won't be either. Good luck and keep practising! Several shorter studies with reflection between/after are better than one long one.
Paul Williams
It looks like your proportions between the brow and chin (eg for the nose, mouth etc) are actually OK, it's just that all of those together are not proportioned correctly in relation to the skull sphere. On this drawing the chin line just needs to be a lot lower... from estimating, I'd say maybe about level with the lowest line we can see of the sphere (the very bottom curve that connects with the neck line). I think, if you lined the chin up to that and kept the brow where it is then the proportion of the rest of the features (when redrawn) would be about right.
@joshhrnnd
7mo
I've been really enjoying these lessons so far! I've been a bit late to uploading for critiques but I hope Mr. Hampton is still able to give out quick comment critiques? If not, any students who are experts in the head drawing field, your comments are more than welcome! Thank you again!
@dbx
2mo
One thing I noticed is your head sizes! When you get into the side planes you can shave down your cranial mass
Mark Gallegos
Thanks so much for the critiques! It definitely inspired me to continue practicing the 8-step method. I have a question about proportions when drawing a head at an extreme upward or downward angle. When drawing an extreme upward angle, the distance between the base of the nose and chin appears bigger than the distance between the base of the nose and the brow. The opposite seems to be true when it's an extreme downward angle. Also, the amount of underside of the brow that's visible varies a lot between upward and downward angles. Are there some rules-of-thumb that help map out these proportions?
Ricen
7mo
This is due to perspective. Just like how you can divide planes into halves using the x-method(shown here: https://www.proko.com/course-lesson/the-x-and-x-ray-tricks/ ) - there are methods to divide planes into any equal portions that you need. Here is how you'd divide it by thirds: https://web.archive.org/web/20160730031252/http://andreasaronsson.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/DivEquParts_03.png The image is from this blog(recovered using web.archive, since the blog seems to have fallen off the internet). The blog shows how to divide planes all the way up to 1/27th if you are interested. https://web.archive.org/web/20211017170937/https://andreasaronsson.com/guides/perspective-drawing/divide-into-equal-parts/ But really, what you'd do for a "rule of thumb" is practice training your intuition a bit. Draw a plane, guess at where the thirds would be in perspective, then use this method to check how well you guessed. Do that enough and you'll start to get a feel for things. Honestly it doesn't have to be super accurate - just accurate enough. If you are always drawing from observation then you'd just rely on the proportions you can see.
@michaelkopa007
great question
@csen
8mo
Any advice on practicing these efficiently? been doing an hour of these every day but havent felt much improvement.
Josh Fiddler
My advice: after you do a set of steps, say 1-4, 5 and 6, and then 7, and 8, pause and digest what you've just done. The sooner you solve the issue, the better. Is it an extreme pose or something more readable? What steps were easy? What steps were hard? In a linear process like this, where stuff builds on the previous, if the early stuff isn't quite right the rest will be more difficult or might not feel quite right if you just keep pushing. I like to begin by looking at the reference for the overall orientation and sometimes do a cylinder to help orient. Then as I dip into the construction, before I move on to a next major phase I pause for just a moment to see if anything is glaringly wrong, and then move on. I try not to dwell and if I miss something, I miss something, but I try to ask where I feel weakest. Sometimes I don't see it till I step away for a bit. I struggle with views from below, seeing lots of the underside of the jaw. So I aim to do more of those. I also often draw along with the critiques, making notes, and try to apply it immediately to my studies.
Michael Hampton
My best advice for practicing efficiently is already here in the steps. If you can, try and pinpoint where your getting stuck or which step is holding back overall improvement and focus there.
Amelia T.
8mo
Thanks a lot for the critiques!
@lucastoonz86
These critiques where insightful, thank you
@hgriff
8mo
Mr. Hampton, thanks for the critique. I'm still massively struggling, and I was wondering if you had an specific suggestions for practicing?
Michael Hampton
Not in addition to the steps/lecture. Just be patient with it. It takes a lot of time to get comfortable with it all.
@lucastoonz86
i would say that the steps demonstrated are a great way to practice simplifying the complex subject of drawing the head, not sure if you have his other class but maybe if you looked up some basic form intersection and modification exercises of cube, sphere, pyramid, cone, etc. could be beneficial for drawing everything
@simone94
8mo
rewatch lessons and try to copy what michael did, i mean copy every skull he draw. Then do exercize twice... for me worked
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