Marshall Vandruff
Laguna Hills, California
I Write, I Draw, I Teach
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I am excited for this one! Just one question please. I notice all the form oblique views are from the same camera angle (for lack of a better phrasing). They all have the same 2 point VPs. Is this just for consistency or a key part of an oblique view to be at a specific angle? So in our projects are we expected to keep this view (30 or 45 degrees) and play with height and depth, or can we do practically any turn?
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Lin,
Any turn you like, any angle you like, at any degree.
The 30° or 45° positions are for convenience because they are familiar. If you venture into very forshortened positions, you create new challenges, so take them up as you need new challenges.
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I love this picture by Caspar David Friedrich (das Eismeer- die gescheiterte Hoffnung). Isn't it a bit of a pancake approach??
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It shore is!
Maria Bygrove
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For this one, I didn't use the blob, instead I put the airplane into a box - this helped with constructing it in perspective but I found it difficult to estimate the position of the box to correspond with the angles of planes in the reference, and so my drawings appear from a slightly different POV. Is there a trick for this or just practice?
Also, in the drawing top right, I messed up something about the placement of the plane in the box because I had to end up drawing the left wing far outside the box to maintain the proportions at all. But I can't figure out where I went wrong. I established center points for the front and back planes of the box to give myself a central axis of the plane and went from there. So how come it ended up being so much off? The more I look, the more I can't see where I went wrong ;)
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The answer to your first question - yes, it is practice, but not "just" practice — it is practice with aspect lines, and seeing them, or rather choosing them in a confusing environment. The plane has many angles, warping what we can discern, and even the perfect Z lines are "in perspective", so which line do you choose?
Well, to begin, you chose a complex form. And you did well. And your question is worthy enough to focus on it for several lessons. That's why we are about to move from blobs to precise line systems.
The answer to your second question I'm less sure of, partly because it looks fine to me! The problem may be that you are expecting too much from the proportions of that box. It's hard enough to get the box line positions, harder still to get their proportions accurate, and if they're not, you're "carving into" a box that you had to guess.
You are well ahead of this project, and your awareness of "central axis" helped you hone it into a well-proportioned drawing, quite advanced compared to the blobs from which they came.
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These were a lot of fun. Ran into some interesting design problems where it would look better to consider more carefully where the walls of the extruded shapes fall in relation to the edges of the main shapes. Some edges lined up too closely to the perspective lines to look good.
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Good job though! Makes you appreciated the graphic designers more, eh?
