Anatomy Critiques – The Shoulder Bones

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Anatomy Critiques – The Shoulder Bones

Lesson by

Stan Prokopenko

in Anatomy of the Human Body

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Assignments 43Lesson NotesDownloads 2

Shelvs Fleurima

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1yr

Assignment shoulder

Heather Houston

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2yr

I need some feedback if possible. Thank you so much 😍 I know she has no hands 😉🤣

Dwight

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2yr

I'm not sure if I've illustrated it completely, but I noticed a couple of things. 1. The rib cage's center of mass is too high up. Remember that it's thickest about 2/3rds of the way down. 2. The lumbar section is a little long. A fist should fit between the Iliac crest and the bottom of the ribs in a neutral pose. 3. The clavicle connects to the scapula, not the humerus. 4. It may depend on what you wanted the arms to do, but I'd argue the scapula should be pushed out more. Remember that they can move independently of the rib cage. I've tried to draw what I mean especially the pushed out scapula, but I'm not that good at drawing on my computer. Let me know if you need anything else. - Dwight

@hugpillows

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2yr

Finally got around to completing the scapula assignment. I attempted to do the assignment from the references, see what corrections I could make by going through the provided demos, then apply those corrections into another attempt at the assignment. Critique would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advanced. :)

Steve Lenze

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2yr

Nice job

Sandra Süsser

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2yr

Some scribbles while watching the critique. Tried to simplify the scapula even further. That stuff is hard. Or well today is not my day / not satisfied with my output, but that’s ok. I keep going. Tomorrow is another day.

@angiespice

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3yr

After many attempts including zero reference and correction later.. I think it is time to move on! I feel like my understanding is growing but will def need to revisit later down the track : D

Jesper Axelsson

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2yr

Hi @angiespice, I think you're doing great with this. The placement and anatomy of the shoulder girdle looks pretty accurate! I think it was a good idea to move on. You want to develop a strong foundation, yet not grind the exercise for too long. Moving forward often helps you put what you've learned into context. - In the tracing of Laura tilting her scapula, I think you got the placement of the acromion process wrong. I did a paintover with some tips. Hope this helps :) Keep up the good work! (PS. To make it easier to find your critique request make sure to post under the assignments tab. That way, the post is automatically marked as a help request, I think)

Andrew Wilson

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3yr

After working on the skeletal section I've been trying to combine them all together. Two of these I drew on top of a reference and tried to imagine the structure. The other three I drew next to the reference and used the 3d models to help visualize the perspective. It's still a bit rough but I'd love to hear any feedback for how these could be better.

CHARLES DEIGHAN

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3yr

Hi Jesper, here's some boxes from my 250 box challenge. Sorry, I should thought of this earlier.

Rick B

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2yr

That Is a challenge AI have not tried. how long did it take you?

CHARLES DEIGHAN

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3yr

Good advise Jesper, thanks. I think when I return to the scapulas, I'll try that out.

Jesper Axelsson

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3yr

Thanks for posting these! They look really good! The issue of improper convergence that I found in some of your mannequins and robo beans isn't there! You seem to understand the box. The issues that happened with the scapulas maybe occured because you to early started thinking about the complex forms, or it's just a matter of practicing putting together multiple boxes; in the 250 box challange it's just an isolated box. If you feel like revisiting the scapulas I think you would benefit from doing this exercise: Draw scapulas from reference or imagination, or do anatomy tracings, but only draw - a box for the ribcage - two flat boxes for the scapulas Maybe with a process like this: Find the round mass of the ribcage --> turn it into a box Find the medial ridge --> complete the scapula box Hope this helps :)

@markb

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3yr

Question about when to move forward; how good should our drawings be before moving onto the next lesson? I'm not yet the standard of some of the drawings in this shoulder critique. Does that mean I should continue on this lesson until I am?

@axel21

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3yr

I'm a little late, but I think having the freedom to venture other topics and not get absorbed in some specific task or schedule, is the best option. We are not machines, so experience should come naturally over repetition (with a lot of thinking of course, otherwise it would be pointless to just repeat the same mistakes). For me, moving away from some specific anatomy lesson, gives me the chance to clear my mind and forget some bad habits in drawing, before coming back to practice again.

CHARLES DEIGHAN

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3yr

Here's my Shoulder Bones Assignment. As usual my attempt is on the left and I followed Stan on the right and this time they're all together. Critiques welcomed, thanks.

CHARLES DEIGHAN

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3yr

Hi Jesper, did you try the second web address I gave you? I just tried it and it worked. It's: imgur.com/a/n0OXOA

CHARLES DEIGHAN

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3yr

Sorry, that's imgur.com/a/n0OXOA

CHARLES DEIGHAN

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3yr

Hi jesper thanks for the critique. If you like you can take a look at my 250 box challenge I did on Draw a Box it's on: imgur.com/n0OXOjA Yes, the shoulder bones were difficult, I imagine I'll be taking another stab at them again in the future.

@ehioe

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3yr

Văn Hiếu Võ

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3yr

Shoulder bones are really tough to figure out! With all the muscles around them.

Luke Ng

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3yr

More studies of the shoulder bones. All critiques and feedback is welcome!

Kenseida

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3yr

Really well done drawing at the end, nice line quality, and an understanding of 3-D forms. Your first drawing can be better perspective-wise. I am not sure of the original image but we see a top-down view of the ribcage with the pelvis not following the same orientation. The scapula in the back is slightly off when following the curve of the ribcage in the back. Either make the top plane smaller for the ribcage or increase the top-down view of the pelvis. The ribcage is not flowing well with the pelvis and the distance between the ribcage and pelvis looks too short. You can also draw lines to indicate the side plane of the ribcage. As this is an assignment for the shoulder bones, I would still draw in the ribcage lightly while drawing the ghosted scapula in the back more darkly as that is the main focus here.

Jesper Axelsson

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3yr

Hi @lukeng, really nice studies! Just had a small note on the last image with muscles. The trapezius´s lower portion looks a little short to me. I think it´s origin goes all the way down to vertebrae T12. But maybe it could look like that if the tendon is really long? I´m not sure... I hope this was helpful :)

Luke Ng

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3yr

Shoulder bone assignment drawings. Looking for feedback

@clivef_poire

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3yr

Jason Winter

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3yr

My attempt. Hard.

Benjamin Goerge

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4yr

Hey everyone! Here is my submission for the shoulder assignment. I found this lesson to be much more difficult than the previous ones. I tried doing more drawings from Anthony, since I think having a muscular build is more difficult, and I thought it would be better practice. I struggled a bit with not only finding the shoulder bones, but also the rib cage. I tried a few more with thinner models like Veronica and Chanon, but I still struggled a bit with finding the correct placement, especially when limbs were covering the bones or they were foreshortened. I think I was a bit more successful, however. I'm still struggling with the linework, and I've been doing practices, I think my main issue is drawing small, since it makes me switch to my wrist, even though I'm more accustomed to drawing the main forms with the rest of my arm. I've tried drawing bigger, but I always find that I tend to shrink things down as I make corrections. Drawing F was the largest I drew, and I think it is much clearer than the others. Please let me know what you think and how I could improve. I plan on studying a bit more with some tracings before moving on to the muscle lessons, but I'd like to know what to continue focusing on as I move forward. Thanks! :)

Audrey Giovanni

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4yr

Hello there Benjamin, You have awesome study over there 0_0 I can give you some input. Based on how I study you can simplify the scapula shape like how I draw it bellow and add a bit of depth. After that I find the landmark and connect the lines. So far I find the "I" scapula not foreshorten enough. As for linework you can use lighter pencil first like 2H-4H (if you like me who tend to give more pressure to the pencil as I draw longer), then use a darker pencils 2b and above for the final lines/shapes. Hope it helps! :D