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Matthew Manghi
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6mo
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Here are the pages I’ve been working on. I’ve also included the final versions that I’ve colored and lettered as well.
Aaron Smith
6mo
These are excellent!
Pamela D
6mo
Great work, especially your colours!
This is awesome! Fun visual storytelling leading the eye through the world, great shot of the character which naturally leads the eye up to the door of the bar! Well done! My suggestion would be to make this page 2! You have a great page turn panel where Silas smashes through the door, it makes me want to know what happens next! So much of your first panel is mostly covered by your lettering and it's a great shot with a lot of opportunities for some more visual cues about the environment. You could start panel 1 of this page with "This duty as led me here in search of the shards of the Elder Sigil" where you see Silas finding the clue in the street, and use the rest of the panel 1 narration for an awesome Page 1 establishing Arkham Massachusetts, Miskatonic Library, maybe tease some of the horrors to come, and introduce Silas in his role as Librarian. I wasn't sure if the first panel on this page was the ruins of Miskatonic Library, or out in the world. Can't wait to see more, keep it up!
Steve Lenze
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1yr
Hey Matthew
Cool page, and nice drawings.
I only had one thing that stood out to me, and that is the sign of the bar and door. I think that to establish them, you should have them appear in the first panel. I know you have the little flag at the top, but it gets lost and is not near the center of interest, which is where people are going to look first.
Just a thought :)
I’m working on some practice pages. Here’s the first one. Written/illustrated/lettered by me.
Reilly Herbst
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1yr
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I think you are really on the right track, and I really like how you are defining the form as a geometric shape. Plus I think proportions are looking pretty good. I’d say try to accentuate the “box” nature of the head. Try to draw it as a three dimensional form more than a 2d geometric shape. I did a quick draw over to illustrate (hope you don’t mind). You’ve got this for sure!
Here’s a couple fan art drawings I’ve done based on Street Fighter.
I have a practical question here. I’m wondering if we post art but not tag it with any description can the AI still use it?
If I post a drawing and label it just “Art” will the AI know how to classify it for the scraping? Is that an AI “safe” way to post images?
I hope you found this talk interesting or atleast informative. I plan on taking up Evan’s invitation to San Francisco, but would like to get your thoughts before I take the trip. Let me know in the comments what you would like me to ask developers and others in the AI space.
My question would be is that if this AI really learns as fast as they say, and it truly doesn’t matter if living artists work is in the training set, why not scrap the current AI and start over using only public domain work? If AI developers don’t care and artists do care, why not do what artists are asking?
Lets “push the boulder” into the public domain.
Also, what about creating some sort of tag artists can use when they post their work online that will signal to the AI to skip that image when it scrapes? Why not empower artists with choice, not tell us it doesn’t matter so you’re going to take our stuff anyway.
I get the feeling that the AI crowd has gotten so excited about what they are doing that they have forgotten that it really does matter how you treat people along the way.
I think what bothers me most about AI isn’t the tech, it’s the pervasive unwillingness of so many AI developers and supports to respect artists wishes regarding how artists own work is used.
If I say I don’t want my work used in the training set, that should be respected. Full stop.
If AI developers truly respect artists and it’s not just lip service, then they will give artists choice and control over how and if their work is used in the training set.
If I'm honest, I really hope you team up with other high profile artists and teachers to do something to stop this. This video showed me that the developers of this technology are either lying or incredibly naïve, and given that they are charging money for these tools its probably the former.
The fact that they are selling a program that was built off the copyrighted work of innumerable independent artists and corporations is absurd. This guy basically responds to the issue of the copyrighted work in their dataset by saying it doesn't matter. That somehow, they are not responsible for the data they trawled off the web being full of stuff they had no legal permission to use. He then claims that even if they did remove it, it wouldn't change anything. But that is a lie: if they didn't need it, they wouldn't be using it. Its inexcusable, and the fact that they already did it is no reason we can't hold them accountable. Please team up with other creators to file legal action against them.
AI is going to be a big part of the future, but as Steven Zapata pointed out, we do not have to roll over an accept it being done in a way that has zero respect for the people that came before it. AI still has a long way to go before it overtakes the industry completely, so there's still time to at least try to soften the blow and make sure these people who blatantly stole from others are held accountable for it.
You've helped me so much with art, and for a few years I genuinely believed art could be my future. I believed it could be the future of so many others as well, and eagerly pointed them to your content so that we could learn and grow together. Now I am pleading with you to do what you can to stop people from stealing the work of others. You have the power to really represent a lot of artists, both big and small. Please do something.
To be clear, I very much agree that copyrighted work in the dataset DOES matter.
But also, I am letting you know that, even if you didn't have copyrighted work in the dataset, that wouldn't necessarily be "better" for artists.
You can win the court case, but it won't actually solve your problem.
-Evan
Matthew Manghi
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2yr
I’m not sure if this course is right for me. Is there a syllabus somewhere that lists the lessons?
Also if I buy it on presale when does the return window start? From the date of sale or the date of its release?
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2yr
If you look at the course overview page the learning points are what is going to be covered. Let me know if you have any other questions.
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2yr
Return window starts from when the first lesson gets released in January
I had the same question! Can someone please elaborate on the refund policy if we buy the course during the presale?
