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@veryartthing
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2d
added comment inProject - Measure Proportions
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Tried doing faces with observing measurements rather than... uh measuring them. Results are worse but way less tedious to do. Main issue is I keep messing up the eyes and I dunno what to do about that really, I always get the angle wrong no matter how hard I try not too.
@veryartthing
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3d
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Its been ages since I've done measuring like this. I usually just use eyeballing techniques, because frankly drawing like this is agony for me. Its soooooo difficult and tedious. I recognize that its helpful though, its just hard to motivate oneself to consistently do something this draining.
@veryartthing
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3mo
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Trying to get back into this course. There are so many steps here that its hard to keep track of it all, but I can see the value of it.
Carlos
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4mo
Is there a way of getting the horizontal proportions? Same way you have explained the halves and thirds, but for the width of the face so we don't end up with faces that are, in my case, too narrow.
I have thought about this because I don't know where would be a correct position to draw the temple in my sketches to form the temporal fossa.
Thank you.
Really would like an answer to this. Rewatched this vid and the next one multiple times and see no explanation for how to find either the temple or the back of the skull accurately.
@veryartthing
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4mo
How do you find the back of the skull if you're not starting with an accurate skull shape? When you start with this big perfect circle its not gonna accurately reflect where any of this is. I don't know where the circle shape on the inside in this diagram even came from.
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4mo
I look for the width of the occipital ridge. This would be about one ear width behind the ear. I tend to just sight it but you could also use the trapezius to help find you're way there.
As this is a construction, I'm mostly dealing in abstraction and estimation. If the basic sphere confuses you and you're looking for something more accurate to the skull try beginning with the form of the cranial mass
@veryartthing
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4mo
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This assignment was fun but also pretty challenging. I really struggle to think more in 2d rather than defaulting to 3D, and had a lot of difficulty applying 2d thinking to photos that weren't at a flat angle.
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4mo
Wow, nice work. I like how you handled the frog and the pig. Keep it up!
Getting back to this course. I actually watched this video last year on Proko's youtube and found it extremely informative, so I was already pretty familiar with it. Still a really good resource.
@veryartthing
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4mo
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I feel like the most confusing part of this is trying to draw the bottom plane of the jaw. Really got no idea what kind of shape to make it.
@veryartthing
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4mo
I have to admit I'm starting to feel frustrated with this course.
I feel like I'm being bombarded with a ton of information and a lot of it isn't super relevant to what I'm trying to study at the moment. I don't get why you go on so many tangents about gender differences when I'm just trying to digest averages in this video. I don't need to know all that right now, I need to focus on these basics first. It makes it really hard to figure out what I should actually be taking note of and zeroing in on.
@veryartthing bro, dont get frustated. Michael is one of very few artists who are also excellent teachers! I truly understand your issue, i was there too, and the solution isnt pleasant to hear. You lack fundamentals, no matter how much you think you know, if you cannot grasp what a master like michael is saying, you do not have clear understanding of fundamentals needed to understand the course. One day you'll look back on this comment and laugh at it for making such a newbie mistake, believe me, most of the artists go through the same thing.
Dont get frustrated! This is a very complete course and it will be yours to keep. Right now dont try to follow and learn everything, set your own pace and advance on the lessons once you feel comfortable to do so. After a year or so review the course again and you’ll see you will grasp some more things, and if you keep on coming to the course each time you will be learning and improving your skills. I have made lots of courses all over the different platforms and Michael style of teaching is awesome! Is the esasiest and with good results if you practice. But learning to draw portraits is one of the most difficult things! So don’t be discouraged, you will see that with time all of this stuff will be like second natura to you.
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4mo
Understood. Proko accepts no questions asked refunds if the course isn't for you.
@veryartthing
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5mo
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I feel like I'm seeing the appeal of this method more. Its helped me to think of the head more as a the cranium mass and jaw attachment, and how those could be manipulated. Its also helped me a lot with the perspective issues introduced by the jaw underplanes which I always struggle with.
