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Espy
It's so eyeopening getting a deeper look at how artists utilize their mastery of perspective and bend it at their will to create different and unique results. The dance both perspective and composition to get there. Between the last lesson and this one, I really like your discussions about composition and how crucial they are to making any piece of art effective. I would love in the future to take a composition course from you if you're ever planning to do so in the future, or have previously done so before. Or at the very least, I would love to know where I can take a course to learn more about that. Obviously that would be something to pursue later after this course, but It's definitely one part of the fundamentals of art that really fascinate me.
@cosmicdraws
Hey Everyone, I'm Cosmic! I'm very excited to start learning about Perspective from the amazing Marshall! I'm a complete beginner to Art and I know how important Perspective can be! When I heard that Marshall was teaching it in a way where it would be fun and anyone could understand, I was interested! As an Artist, I want to be able to draw People, Animals, Backgrounds, Environments, etc! I mostly wish to draw Animals and I know how crucial Perspective is for getting your animals to look correct and to be able to draw Animals in different angles. My goal for this course is that I want get a solid understanding to be able to draw boxes and forms in 3D space and understand Perspective as well as I can! It may be difficult but with lots of practice and with this course, I'm sure I'll learn plenty! I also wish to be able to do studies of some of my favorite artists and be able to draw statues, animals, and people in fun perspectives and angles! Here are some amazing artworks that inspire me! I'm beyond excited to venture through a complex topic with an amazing teacher and I'm excited to develop an understanding for how Perspective works so I can run wild with it! Sending lots of love to Marshall and the Proko team and everyone who purchased the course! It's going to be an amazing and fun time learning with such a great teacher 💖
Espy
7h
Pozuka's art is lovely. the enjoyment of reading Promised Neverland is highly elevated thanks to her art!
Espy
Man, these breakdown videos really get me to appreciate the masters of the past. Love the little details too such as how the stairs are used in this scene to subtly show how Jack Frost has the higher ground, and how Flip is always in the lowest part of each panel to show how opposed he is to all of this...Little elements like that are so important in storytelling. I'm very interested too in learning the balance between accuracy and aesthetic. Whenever I try to go for aesthetic rather than accuracy, it always tends to fall flat. I'm curious to go through the process of learning how to bend the rules once you know them!
Marshall Vandruff
Yes, the balance is an aesthetic call. You have one obvious gift toward it: knowing when it is not yet working. Someday, Espy, when you get it to work, your inner critic will help you be sure of it.
Espy
Whenever I followed perspective courses on youtube in the past, I've noticed a lot of the tutorials tend to jump from learning 1 point, 2 point, and 3 point perspective, to tutorials on depth to like this, and while do feel like i learn how to apply those basic foundations of perspective in that way, I do feel like I am lacking the advanced understanding of perspective to build characters and organic environments using the knowledge of perspective; I just thought my brain wasn't capable of conceiving such a concept! Foundations like learning how to rotate a cube while keeping it consistent, pre-planning, measuring around forms, and learning how to freeform organic forms are lessons I'm really looking forward to in this course!
Marshall Vandruff
Espy, you will get enough "advanced understanding of perspective" to either continue in it like an engineer, or get it into your freehand skills so that you will eventually feel it more than think it. And I bet you know that, either way, you will earn it! Work ahead, but I hope fun too.
@keiths
Do we know if he was consciously using perspective here rather than working very accurately from observation? Ok I realise that water is a moving target, so to speak, but if you look at it closely for long enough you can get an idea of how it arranges in space over time. Much of the skill then is distilling the essence of these dynamics into a representation that makes sense to the observer. Obviously, you have presented this as part of a perspective course and I don't doubt your analysis, but the purpose of perspective is to accurately represent the 3D world on a 2D surface. So I assume that it is possible that an artist sufficiently skilled in accurate observation could produce perspective views without relying on formal perspective techniques.
Espy
20d
I don't think we will ever know if he was merely using observation or not for this piece, but I do like to think he was using perspective as a guide to understand how the water is flowing down in this river. Even if through observation he can notice the arrangement of rock formations, I do think knowledge of perspective has to be applied here to fill in the gaps to portray the flow of water into a still image when his subject of the river is constantly flowing, and even in certain situations such as how far and how short the ellipses of the river need to be away from the viewer vs the ellipses that are closest to the viewer.
ceres
Hi everyone!! Excited and slightly nervous for this course! I've been learning to draw for the past 5 years, but got stuck and then realized I never actually learned my fundamentals :) So, after not understanding ANYTHING about perspective for the longest time, I'm here to learn it! (maybe one day... master it??) I have found that its easy to paint a portrait, but hard to create a world for that character to live in, so that I can tell stories with them. During these past couple years, I've essentially become the copier in the little animation in this video! I am terrified of working without reference! So I'm looking forward to building my sense of form and space, and exercising my creativity more and more. I've already seen a lot of progress with my understanding of these concepts with Prokos basics course, but I know that Marshall has some definite wisdom on this topic that I can't wait to hear more from him on it. Truth be told, I had a hard time finding examples of artists I look up to right now that are perspective masters, so I am interested in finding more as time goes on. The ones I've attached below though include Airi Pan, Kan Liu, and Rembert Montald. Some other creatives I respect greatly include Peter Han and Kim Jung Gi, for their ability to create on the fly. I'd love to learn perspective enough to be able to rotate a space, which is a useful skill for both comics and animation. As well as imagine 3d forms with more ease for building characters and animals, and really, whatever I want to create :) I prefer a more intuitive approach to drawing, so internalizing as many perspective lessons as I can will be a great boon to my imagination and sketching skills!
Espy
22d
The first two images are so lovely! And 666k is such a good artist :D
@geetar
Hi everyone. I'm actually still in the middle of the Drawing Basics course, and getting close to the perspective part. I didn't want to miss out on the critiques here, so I decided to start with this class a little early. To be honest, perspective is still very new to me. I can barely even draw. In terms of masters, I'm still new to this, so I don't even know that many works where perspective is the key point. I've only seen like two drawings by Kim Jung Gi. I love manga and anime, and know that perspective is essential for drawing; I tried to limit myself to just two mangaka, and ventured out from there. Masashi Kishimoto. NARUTO. I think many in recent years either don't know or have forgotten that Kishimoto can draw like this. NARUTO certainly has its flaws, but the quality of drawing is not one of them. Yukinobu Tatsu. Dandadan. He's just an exquisite artist. I think someone else uploaded this page too. Hiroshi Yoshida. Golden Temple in Amritsar. I was very happy to see his work included in the video, so I decided to put one of his works that I particularly like. Scott Robertson. Inktober motorcycle drawing. Robertson's book How to Draw gets recommended all the time! I haven't bought it yet, but his drawings are clearly that of a master of perspective. M. C. Escher. House of Stairs. I think many of us here have an M. C. Escher work in our posts. Big picture goal. It's hard for me to judge what's realistically attainable in the span of the next few months. Maybe those of you who have more experience with perspective can advise me on this. Perhaps a capstone project where I draw a simple car from an angle, in two point perspective?
Espy
22d
Dadadan Great to see another Dandadan fan here! Love tatsu's art so much!
Espy
Hello everyone, my name is Espy! It's nice to meet you all and see what your influences are! Like a lot of people my generation, I've been greatly influenced by anime art. The fine line between cartoonish characters that follow the fundamentals of traditional art is something I've always been the biggest fan of. Very recently, I've been a huge fan of several artists on social media. For years I've been chasing that dream of improving my art skills and trying to make it a career through college and the beginning of my work life. However, perspective has always eluded me. My white whale. My primary goals for this perspective course are: - How to combine perspective boxes and cylinders to form the human, or other creature, figure. (without overthinking the angle for each box and cylinder) - Consistency with boxes and proportion as they turn in different angles. - Keeping the same vanishing point when drawing a box by eye. - how do figures and parts of the environment in perspective shrink in size as they get farther away. -How to draw multiple figures in different angles adhering to the same perspective and keeping everything believable. -Getting to the point where drawings don't take days or weeks to finish (even mild sketches). Artists: Jeonghee1414 - the way this artist uses perspective to make dynamic illustrations, even when characters are static, is what I love so much about their art. Their mastery of form and perspective allows them to both have creative compositions and provide dynamic quick sketches that still convey a great sense of depth. Zero808 - The consistency in forms between each drawing is something I really want in my art. The way details like the face or body feel proportionatly accurate, in different angles. Niy_003 - horizontal compositions can feel especially cinematic when done with the correct perspective. I would love to create stories with my art that feel cinematic, and portray a sense of different emotions with different figures and angles in perspective. Other influences include the landscapes of Nier Automata and artist Krenz Crushart. Environmental storytelling is such an important factor in making creative designs and illustrations. For all of these illustrations, I love the dichotomy of cartoonish anime characters with either realistic accessories or environments to portray different moods, be it happy, somber, or even horror! I hope this perspective course can push us further towards our goals!
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