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Andreas Kra
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Here, I’m adding my own spin to the exercise, starting with Monday’s task: rotating a kitchen item in perspective.
Andreas Kra
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Week 2 Monday
The enemy of the robot of week 1.
@saschu
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It looks so much easier than it is done. Even with somthing as simpel as a knife.
I think the challenging part of the knife is capturing the curved section. Your side view at the top looks great! I gave it a try myself and started by oversimplifying it into an elongated cube and a rectangular plane as a first step.
For the curve, it might help to identify a few key points in perspective to map out the knife’s shape. I used the “X trick” to divide the plane into four equal parts and then estimated additional points to guide the curve when it’s distorted in perspective.
If this approach was helpful, let me know! Practice is key, and I hope you don’t feel discouraged. We’re all learning together and figuring things out along the way. Keep going—you’re doing great!
Brandon
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1d
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Day 8-9: Rhinos
Start moving to the territory of organic forms. Rhinos are just cool animals to draw.
I know that Marshall mentioned the " X " in a plane can be useful to keep track of proportion, but I am still not sure how that works after a number of attempts.
Simplifying the organic object into 4 blobs makes my life easier in drawing it from different perspectives.
Question:
How do you guys understand the 3d form of subjects (or draw cross contours)? Quite honest, I found it easier to understand the subject if I could see things in real life.
I think you've got a solid study of the rhino—it’s definitely a challenging subject to draw. For me, adding 3D contours really helped to start thinking more in 3D. It makes it easier to visualize where the form bends and twists.
If you search for simple organic forms (e.g. Pinterest), you’ll find something like a blob—similar to the image I added below. Something clicked for me when I started drawing similar blobs. It felt like I was transitioning from creating flat 2D shapes with outlines to something that felt more like believable, three-dimensional volumes.
Maybe Sketchfab or other 3D model websites could serve as a middle ground between real-life drawing and studying from photos.
https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/rhino-2892f1c1f6e84fde919aa2d73c6595c9
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X TRICK:
For me, it was helpful to think about it without distortion, just as a simple rectangle. If you connect all the corners, it becomes obvious that the "X" lies in the middle of the rectangle. This way, you can find the center of the shape by drawing the horizontal and vertical lines.
I use the "X" trick to draw things that are equally spaced, like streetlamps in a long straight row or windows. I start with a square and draw the same "X" as before. If you want to expand the spacing to the sides, you can imagine a larger "X" to find the extended corners. Where the bigger diagonals intersect with the top and bottom, the same unit is reached in perspective.
Maybe this helps?
Brandon
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3d
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Day 5-7:
Day 5: revision on bicycle and the seat. Try to do a different variation of the bike. For the seat, I used the blob approach, thx to Andreas' advice, although the proportion looks a bit off in some of them, it is still a good exercise
Day 6: The bicycle might not be the best object for the project, so go back to do more boxes. Robotic arms, I am just glad that I can tilt the object, while the proportion doesn't seem too off.
Day 7: Lego car. Sorry for the ellipses being a mess, and one of them looks a bit distorted. I will redraw it again tomorrow and start trying to do some organic objects.
I'm glad my reply was helpful! I also struggle with drawing accurate ellipses, but you're making great progress. Your study of the Lego car looks good — great work! Keep it up!
Brandon
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5d
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Day 3: air fryer, this time 3 to 4 boxes to draw. This one have a simple shape, but interesting design in the form and some subtle details.
Day 4: Always want to draw a bike, but it seems a sudden jump in the complexity,
Improvement:
1. Seems like the ellipse are controlled well on day 4. I am happy for that.
2. Correct many times for the proportion on day 3, at least now I can see some of it.
3. I am developing my stages, like PeterHan did in the last videos, but more pencil work first.
Lessons/Question:
1. I kind of know how to draw a hexagon within a square, but not sure for the octagon
2. the bike seems complicate, The body, of it I try to simply, man, that one is hard. And advice on that will be more than welcome.
3. Kind of rushed in my progress for doing the complicated 3d form(seat of the bike), i should do it in the later days of the challenge/course when my 3d sense improve more. And it s a good start.
Great progress and an excellent choice of objects to draw from! Finding the sweet spot between overly challenging and just challenging enough to maximize the exercise's value can be tricky, but you've done a fantastic job. Here’s my attempt: I kept it as simple as possible and reduced the bicycle to basic lines. Personally, I find using a proportional grid helpful for capturing accurate proportions. If anything is unclear, feel free to ask!
We’re on this journey together—maybe it’s helpful, maybe not—but figuring it out along the way is exactly how progress happens!
Randy Pontillo
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10d
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This was quite challenging, especially with a pivot point, but it was fun to work out! The blob was less helpful as a guideline for me, but it was a good way to make starting on the motorcycle's forms less intimidating.
anyway, here's my bike!
Brandon
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10d
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I guess I will start my own 2 weeks challenge for this project
Day 1: start with a simple box-like object, try to add some complexity in later days.
1st pic = blob approach, 2 nd pic starts to add some useful details, at the same time practice my line. Hopefully I ll improve bit by bit after these 2 weeks.
Question to ask:
1. try to do square in perspective, not sure if those are or not. coz we need a circle in perspective to know that, but at the same time we need a square in perspective to know the ellipse is circle or not... kind of in a egg first or chicken first, logic loop?
2. I think I am no sure about how to draw the ellipse within an ellipse for depth measure. e.g the smallest ellipses in the 2nd pic.
3: seems like the width of the clock was not controlled well enough when I now look at them, any way to solve that or just attention to detail.
Love this project and we did something similar in the basic course, now its more like a continuity of it, and thats cool.
Great idea to turn it into a small challenge! Looking forward to seeing your progress. Nice item choice!
Will you create your own Proko community tab where others can join the journey?
Andreas Kra
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10d
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I chose a chair from IKEA for this exercise. I hadn’t realized that nearly every item on their website is now available as a 3D model—super handy for practicing perspective!
(https://www.ikea.com/ch/de/p/ekenaeset-sessel-eiche-gunnared-beige-60506898/)
I challenged myself to go beyond the assignment by adding my own twist, giving me a reason to draw the chair from different perspectives. Here are my first few sketches—raw and unpolished, straight from the brainstorming phase.