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Vincent Duncombe
Vincent Duncombe
New to drawing ... just seeing how far I can go for the fun of it.
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Vincent Duncombe
Just completed a study of one of Frank Frazetta's works. The amount of energy and emotion that he is able to get in his compositions are inspiring. Has anyone else studied his work and has thoughts on what makes his art so famous?
Vincent Duncombe
Hi ... again :) @Luigi Manese, @Liandro, and @Jesper Axelsson . So did another portrait drawing. As always continuing to practice. While this is likely the last "offical" drawing for this course ... I will likely be revisiting both this course and the figure drawing course in the near future. I'm planning to do a bit more work on structure based drawing as well. And it is interesting ... I remember asking you all about drawing from imagination and that I didn't feel like I wanted to do it but ... Lol ... Now that I've been doing draw a box :) ... the idea of drawing from imagination has really ignited. At some point I'm sure I'll be jumping into the anatomy course. So, still a long road ahead of me I think. But most importantly now ... I'm enjoying the process. As always again really appreciate you all!
John Harper
Hey Vince... you forgot to allow comments on your Frazetta post.
Liandro
3yr
Great work, @Vincent Duncombe! And a great critique by @Jesper Axelsson! When Jesper mentioned, I took a second look at your drawing and it really reminded me of Burne Hogarth’s rendering style too. Vincent, it’s awesome to know you’re following along with Draw a Box’s lessons and getting more interested about drawing from imagination! Later on, the Anatomy course should help you a lot, but even now, seems you’re harvesting the benefits of a constructional drawing approach already. Keep going! By the way: @Irshad Karim, the creator of Draw a Box, is also here at Proko, in case you didn’t know! :) Good studies!
Jesper Axelsson
Hi @Vincent Duncombe Really nice drawing! Good structure and shading! I did a paintover: - I tried darkening the reflected lights. I think they are too light in your drawing, especially around the ear; when I squint the ear melts together with the darks. - I added some more dark halftones on his cheek -Your rendering has a round look; it reminds me some of how Burn Hogarth sometimes rendered. Personally, I prefer a little more chiseled look, especially when drawing men. In my paintover I tried to accentuate the structure of certain areas with straights (the cheekbones, the bridge of the nose and the cartilages, the chin and the plane changes of the cranium). In the ball of the nose I tried to look for sharper form turns: Instead of shading it all like a ball, I tried to look for areas that could be shaded more boxy, to get some variation Hope this helps :)
Vincent Duncombe
Hello @Luigi Manese , @Liandro , and @Jesper Axelsson ... I hope you all didn't think I ran away! :) ... I have been keeping up with the practice. Posted a skull practice as well on the Male Skull application page. These are some of my studies. I think I captured some of the likeness. Still struggling with the planes of the face a bit with lighting (maybe I should choose some photos with more dynamic lighting?) and on the one not looking up ... seems like although I tried to fix it still ended up getting the mouth a bit wrong and angle a bit off from the rest of the features. Either way I always love hearing from you all. Let me know what you think! Thanks in advance! PS ... still struggling with the differences between how photos differ in appearance from the actual drawing :(
Liandro
3yr
Great work, @Vincent Duncombe! What pops to me the most is how well constructed and nicely detailed you did all the facial features - which then leads me to notice that, indeed, it is putting them all together in the overall face structure what you might wanna focus on some more in your steps ahead. I agree with Jesper: checking the alignments and proportions at an early stage of the drawing will certainly help you keep everything nicely tied together on the face. But see if you can go beyond checking just with the reference - as Jesper suggested, try using Loomis’s (or Reilly’s) method. Either one should be helpful for you to work your drawing in a constructional way, thinking in 3D to build up the head (rather than just copy the visual relationships in the photo). Along with that, thinking in 3D should also help you figure out the spatiality of the head’s volume when you place the features on it, which is a step towards better understanding the smaller planes. As an extra tool to help understand the planes of the face, you could experiment with the Asaro Head - try googling it. Asaro’s head model breaks up the main secondary planes of the head in a very didactic way, so it could be a nice complement to the Loomis method - think of the Loomis head as the most basic, primary forms, and Asaro’s, as a structure of secondary volumes. If you can’t or don’t want to purchase a physical model (I tried and couldn’t, they won’t ship to my country 😩), I bet a 3D version of it (or at least images of the model in perspective) can be found somewhere in the Internet. But, of course, the most effective way to better understand the forms of the head is to study its realistic anatomy - bones, muscles and other parts. I know Steve Houston has an awesome series of videos about head drawing at NMA (http://www.nma.art). Also at NMA, I’ve also seen Iliya Mirochnik’s dissect all bones of the head in his very detailed Russian Academy approach to portrait drawing. Feel free to look up other resources to study from and see if you can find something helpful to you! Hope this helps! Let me know if you’d like to discuss anything further! Keep it up! 🙌🏻
Jesper Axelsson
Hi @Vincent Duncombe, nice portraits! I'm really impressed by the subtle halftone work in the second drawing; kinda gives me a da Vinci vibe. - Like you said, in the first drawing the alignment of the features is off. In the photo her mouth looks like it's slanting down to the right a little more than the other features (And it does! I did a tracing of the feature lines to double check). But it's a little exaggerated in yours (and the nose caught on to this aswell). Just got to remember to check the alignment in the beginning stages, by doing a loomis head for example Cheers!
Vincent Duncombe
Posting one of my latest skull studies. Trying out something new … slowing down and not rushing through the layins ☺️. Didn’t push the values as far as I could but reached the point where I checked off all my goals for the study.
gabriel habiashvily
Hey there, i just want to say, i have looked in your profile and from what i can see, you have an amazing talant, you have very good control over light and shadow, i hope you never stop drawing because you are clearly good at it, so ya, keep at it and have an awsome day🤩
Sashank G
3yr
Awesome work .. great value control . Good lights and shadows
Vincent Duncombe
Hello everyone. Some ear studies from the lesson videos. Some of the shapes not as accurate as I would like but continuing to practice along with doing practice with the draw a box class. Hopefully everyone is doing well! @Liandro @Jesper Axelsson @Luigi Manese
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These look really good. I don't have much critique to give. Keep up the good work! :)
Liandro
3yr
Pretty good, @Vincent Duncombe!! I really like the 3D forms and the anatomy. I think I'd make the Tragus just a little bit bigger on the one to the right. Other than that, I think this looks excellent.
Vincent Duncombe
Hey @Jesper Axelsson, @Luigi Manese and @Liandro Just posting again to let you know I haven’t dropped off the map! I noticed this course doesn’t have much assignments … so it’s kind of choose your own adventure 😆. Anyway, here are some eyes I did. I didn’t really measure on these, was just trying to get a feel for it based on the video. Hope you all are doing well! Others feel free to comment as well. Thanks.
Lynn Hann
2yr
Great work Vincent.
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Vincent, wonderful; nice values too!
Liandro
3yr
Great job, @Vincent Duncombe! As a plus to Jesper's critique, I'd just add that, since the course has no specific assignments indeed, drawing along and making your own free studies (as you are) is a pretty effective way to get the most out of the learning process. Keep up the good work!
Jesper Axelsson
Hi @Vincent Duncombe, really nice studies! - Do you know about ambient occlusion? It can help with adding extra depth to the shadows Here´s a video on the topic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fLV5ezO64w&t=639s - I would try to wrap the corners of the eyelids around the eyeball a little more, to give the drawing more depth. - I don´t have the reference for the second eye, but I think the lights of the eyeball turn dark to quickly. Dorian Iten, talks about dirty lights, in this video : https://www.proko.com/lesson/mind-blowing-realistic-shading-tricks/assignments I hope this was helpful :)
Vincent Duncombe
Hey @Jesper Axelsson @Luigi Manese @Liandro just letting you all know that I have started the portrait course (likely anatomy next). Starting to get the hang of this a bit. Will be reaching out for assistance as I go through the course if that’s okay. Thanks!
Liandro
3yr
Awesome work, @Vincent Duncombe! I've got two things to highlight: 1) The bottom plane of the jaw: try to think of it as the bottom plane of a box. I'll emphasize what Jesper already said: draw the "hidden" lines! That should help you track the perspective and the construction with more accuracy. 2) In extreme angles, the visual effects of perspective can usually get intense, then things will start to look smaller pretty fast. That's what I'd suggest for number 67: even though we know the sections of the face should be the same length so we can get correct proportions, making the farther one (nose to chin) slightly smaller will enhance how much of an extreme perspective this is. Counter-intuitively, distorting the so-called correct measurements can make the head feel visually correct when it's in such a dynamic perspective. Draw-overs attached. Hope this helps!
Luigi Manese
That's great to hear @Vincent Duncombe! These studies look very solid and very well constructed, so you're off to a good start. Looking forward to see your future ones!
Jesper Axelsson
Hi @Vincent Duncombe Looking great! Succesful overall, especially how you placed the circle on the side of the head! I´ve got nothing to critique, just a tip: When you get into tough angles it´s really helpful to draw the invisible side of the head too, especially when drawing the jaw. If you can Identify the circle on the other side of the head, you can find important construction points of the jaw by travelling along perspective lines. (I attached an image from a critique to another student). Drawing through can also improve the structure overall. I hope this helps :)
Kristian Nee
Hey Vincent! Really nice drawing, the proportion and gesture are really solid. The even tones in the shadows are quite impressive as well, that's a hard thing to do! A couple things I'd say are to focus on the shadow shapes, and how to use them to help the form read. I've included some studies @Erik Gist did while I was taking classes with him. In his drawings you can see that he wraps the rib cage to emphasize the torso going forward in space. In your drawing, the upper back, the ribcage, and hips are all reading as the same form. If you were to push those fundamental bean shapes, I think it'd do a lot for your drawing. Good luck and great job!
Vincent Duncombe
Thanks! Yes the shadow shapes are what I’m working on. I love how the teachers at the watts school design their shadow shapes. Something I’m aspiring to. Following most of them on Instagram. One day I’ll get there. Really appreciate the feedback.
Steve Lenze
Hey Vincent, Nice job on your drawing, the pose and gesture looks good. I wish you had posted the reference, it would make it easier to critique your drawing. I did do a drawing to show you how I think the shadow pattern might look. I also adjusted some proportional problems and fixed that foot. This is all guess work, but my experience tells me what It probably should look like. I hope this is helpful, and keep on drawing :)
Vincent Duncombe
Hey Steve! Thanks for the review. Yes the foot! Lol 😆. I will be doing some anatomy lessons here shortly. Still deciding between that and the portrait course as my head needs some work as well. I started the first lesson the beginning of this year. Thanks for the feedback and overdraw. I did not post the image because it’s just apart of the lesson and not sure what the rules are since I don’t own the image. Next time I’ll do one from a photo pack I own. However as Proko normally says … if it looks wrong it’s wrong … even if you’ve measured correctly ☺️ So whether or not it matches the reference completely your response is valuable to me and I will use it. Thanks!
Vincentius Sesarius
It's great! The only that pops to my attention is that erector spinae is too protruding. They should look softer. Keep the middle line, and try to erase the two lines above the PSIS (Venus's dimple).
Vincent Duncombe
Thanks @Vincentius Sesarius I think that is good advice. I’ll keep on practicing.
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