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Ron Kempke
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It may be due to the camera angle but, when I use your suggestion of rapidly comparing your drawing to its reference, I see the drawing as being slightly stretched vertically compared to its reference. Are you seeing that too on the video?
When I was a student, this type of distortion was a common issue for those of us who didn't begin a drawing with an envelope that established the overall proportions of the image. What are your thoughts about using measured envelopes as a beginning, as Raphael Ellender teaches in his book, Basic Drawing?
BTW, Andrew Loomis offers a "visual survey" on page 88 of, Figure Drawing For All It's Worth, that's kind of similar to your "inside to outside" method of measuring.
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I have no idea what you mean by envelopes.
Ron Kempke
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4d
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I think it's interesting (and frustrating) to see how far off most of us are on our first attempt. Beside your rapid eye suggestion, are there any other exercises you can recommend that will help develop a hypersensitivity to minute differences, because most of us seem to lack that ability?
Ron Kempke
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Thank you so much for making this method crystal clear. I believe it's the same method that Harley Brown uses to produce his images.
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I love Harley Brown and I could only hope that this is similar to the way he works
Ron Kempke
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5d
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I have two questions:
1. Are you drawing sight size?
2. How do you know you won't run off the paper when you get farther away from your starting point?
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4d
No I am not sight size. I’m drawing from the inside to the out is the better way to look at it and that’s why using some type of graph even if it’s minor to know where to begin helps a lot
@aakerhus
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Trying another one were I try to think about it as "I'm about to slice through the subject" ( Poor froggy :( ) I think it looks good, but I don't feel confident about it.. Don't really know if what I do counts as cross-countour or if I am just enhancing the forms you allready are seeing in the reference, I guess it is a little bit of both?
Copying is easy. Draw it from another point of view to see if you really understand it.
Izak van Langevelde
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I'm afraid you're clueless when it comes to the notion of talent. Talent is not just some innate god-given ability, it is also the ability to learn. You show us you have been able to learn, to conclude you don't need talent? Yes, every Tom, Dick and Harriet can learn art, but some will learn so slowly they will never achieve a useful skill level in this life. Please leave telling there is no such thing as talent to third-rate schools who sell the idea that art skills can be bought. You are better than that!
I think your idea of talent is as wrong as it can be. Andrew Loomis sums up talent very well on page 11 of Successful Drawing: "The truth is that we do not see the talent until the means of bringing it forth has been developed."
Your inability to learn is closely associated with your personal discipline commitment. How often do you practice, for how long, and for what specific purpose is your practice intended?
The digital age has spoiled anyone who thinks he/she can acquire the skill they want by shortcutting traditional practice methods. Stan spent 10 years of intensive, disciplined practice to arrive at his current skill level. I submit to you that your expectations far exceed what can be realistically expected, so stop feeling sorry for yourself and get to work!
@omnesilere
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1mo
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Straight edge was used on the goblet. I ended up using a 90* triangle on the face so I could try to get some perpendicular help going. At least one of these lines based off the center I screwed up on and of course that was for the eyes so I ended up "fixing" them a couple times more times than I'd like to admit; before I caught that. Wolfs carbon on printer paper wasn't much fun either but I'm mitigating that by just not going full dark. Ie I'm too lazy I guess. Great exercises though. Practicing eyeing and measuring angles is never bad.
Fold your vase in half along its centerline and hold it up to light to see where you're off. Maybe turning the drawing upside down will reveal the discrepancies to you too.
Florian Villoing
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1mo
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Yesterday I went ahead and moved to the next phase but only to realize 2 issues: 1. My middle light was too light and 2. Some of the drawing was annoyingly off (eyes, nose, lips and side contour of the face). I could have moved on and tried to fix that on the go but this is not a race and I want this learning experience to result in the best possible painting I can produce with my current abilities. So I decided to take a step back, fix the drawing issues as much as I could and cover the whole light area with what I started to use for my half tones. I think this already looks better :-)
Reminds me of the paint by number paintings my mother made when I was a kid. There were also colored pencil paint by number sets you could buy at your local art store. Anyone remember those?
Ron Kempke
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1mo
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I understand the family separation of a single local value but how do you determine the degree of family separation for two differing local values so they appear to be in the same light?
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1mo
If you have a value scale from 0 to 10, with 10 being black and 0 being white, you could pick any 3 that are together on that scale as one family. The separation should not be so great as to seem to be too big a jump. If you do, the painting will look too choppy. This is just a rule of thumb, not some great law you cannot ever break. But just know in general, keeping the families close together will result in a cleaner sculpted look. If for instance, your highlight value is too big a jump from average value the head can end up looking like it was covered in sweat or oil.
