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Tiger Gayle-Walker
Tiger Gayle-Walker
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Tiger Gayle-Walker
Planning to focus on the loomis head for the next week. As a jumping off point does anything of these stand out as glaringly wrong? Thanks in advance! Whoo!
Tiger Gayle-Walker
Tiger Gayle-Walker
Brum brum🚘! Fun challenge
John B
3yr
Nice! Interesting perspective choice.
Sam West
I didn't go in for detail with these, more trying to think about the planes of the hands and hows they would be lit by the different light sources. Feedback welcome!
Tiger Gayle-Walker
These look super cool @Sam West, amazing job on these! The only critique would be the bottom left one, the "✌" one. It might just be my hand dexterity but the thumb looks too folded over at the joint as if it's flat to the palm. It's not like the thumb can't touch the palm, it's just that I struggle to have the thumb that close to the palm without it being further across towards the pinky side. Again might just be my dexterity. Great work!
Richard Barkman
Hey everyone, please check out these gesture, structure lay ins and let me know what you think. I’ll proceed with shading after criticism. Jesper, thanks for looking at the previous submission; any further thoughts? @Jesper Axelsson
Tiger Gayle-Walker
Hi there @Richard Barkman! I like your gesture with all four hands in hand 4 & your simplification of the fingers. Good Job! Some suggestions: 1. Loosen up the gesture stage to emulate what proko's are like in his gesture tutorials (using c s i lines) 2. Spend time defining the planes of the hands with more simplified primary shapes (Boxes, Cylinders, Spheres), especially with the palm connection to the fingers in hand 2 + back of hand in hand 1. Keep up the great work!! Happy drawing!
Tiger Gayle-Walker
Hey @Liandro! Great expression! from the dog's fear (and size), composition & guy's angry rage (and size)! This is more of a suggestion, as it seems your going with a portrayal of power with the man's overbearing rage bending the table and chair, would you say, as the man's bending forward, the chair legs could bend all in unison to complement the C curve as you have with the dog's chair, shifting the weight from directly down from the pelvis to a teetering 'seesaw' like distribution of his body weight? PS. Massive thanks for your previous critiques!!
Liandro
3yr
You're welcome, @Tiger Gayle-Walker, and many thanks for your helpful feedback in my work here! I'm just not sure I completely understood the idea of "shifting the weight from directly down from the pelvis to a teetering 'seesaw' like distribution of his body weight" - would you mind attempting to clarify it a bit more for me? Thanks again!
Tiger Gayle-Walker
Hi guys! Would be great to get some feedback on this, not too sure I've manniquinized correctly (done with solid enough form)? Bonus if ya got any gesture tips! Thanks!
John Harper
My attempts
John Harper
So, I can see you're trying to get the gesture. The planted leg is going to be very straight and in-line with the kicker's nose/eyes. All of his weight is on that leg. You've got a couple of challenges: 1. This is a difficult pose with loads of foreshortening. 2. The Gi is masking his body, so you have to "guess" at what's going on. That's why we draw nudes. There is nothing in the way of the figure. Even advanced students have to go back to the basics of the figure because some of these poses are so difficult. If you are new to gesture and mannequin-ization, this pose is too advanced. But, your best bet is to go with the robo-bean and make sure your gesture is right. Steps I took in my attempt: 1. I noticed that the distance from the floor to the groin is about double that of the ribcage and head (the foreshortening). 2. I noticed and marked the start and end points from the head to the bottom of the kicker's right leg, noting the groin area because the kick is coming from there. 3. I found a few flowing gesture lines that gave me the angle of the left leg and it's relationship with the butt and right leg. 4. I drew my robo-bean. 5. I filled in (roughly) the legs and feet. I attempted twice. Both attempts were about 2 minutes (until I started shading the robo-bean). This would be a really fun class assignment because one would get to see all the different approaches and perspectives.
Camellito
Here is my mannequin, I tried to be more dynamic.
Tiger Gayle-Walker
Great form in this piece. You've done a good job of exaggerating the pose too! One thing I'd be watching out for is the balance of the pose. Looks a bit too heavy on-screen right of the pose. Happy Drawing!
Tiger Gayle-Walker
Hey Stan/Kristian, thanks for streaming! What would you guys define as a great critique? Plus the opposite, a really bad one. Thanks again!
Tiger Gayle-Walker
Hey guys! Tried using force method on these poses, would like to know your thoughts on these! Thanks for any critiques & have a great day!😁 @Liandro @Diego Lucia
Archie chrisanthou
very forceful!
Liandro
4yr
@Tiger Gayle-Walker Love these! I don't have enough knowledge on the FORCE method to make critiques based on it, but I can say these sketches have a lot of flow and life. Maybe it was intentional, but it feels like the proportions have gotten a bit too exaggerated in the third one. I really like the "waviness" of the surfer's left arm. Great job overall!
Jon Neimeister
Great start @Tiger Gayle-Walker! Your lines have a nice fluidity to them, and you're doing a good job of keeping the individual curves nice and dynamic. I think the areas you could improve on are: 1- Proportion and structure. The arms are quite short and there's no indication of foreshortening, and the head and back leg aren't quite connecting to the body- did you have reference for this or was it from imagination? Drawing from ref is the fastest way to improve proportion. :) 2- While the individual rhythms are nice, they're not connecting with each other to create larger rhythms through the whole figure. I'd start with identifying and simplifying the centerline a bit: her primary action is that she's pressing forwards, so everything else should follow that curve in some way (red). After that, the limbs will feel a lot more gestural if you find ways to connect them to other body parts with a consistent rhythm (blue and green). Lastly sometimes you'll want to deviate from anatomy to get a better gesture: since her centerline is curved towards the right, having the arch of the back do the same will reinforce the gesture (orange), you can always add anatomy on top later. Keep up the good work! :D
Tiger Gayle-Walker
Hey @Jon Neimeister, Thanks so much for the critique! Definitely agree with you on those points, looking back I’m seeing a lot more positional errors too haha. I wasn’t paying much attention to the flow as a whole or structure too either, so I’ll definitely keep those as reminders and pay more attention moving forward! (Attached is the reference and an edited version before reading your critique.)
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