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Andrea M.
Andrea M.
Detroit, MI USA
Late starter
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Andrea M.
Looking for feedback on some landmark practices I have done. FYI...I am finding that as I progress through the lessons, each helps me understand the earlier ones better. So I'm seeing progress with gesture by having practiced landmarks! Anyway, feedback appreciated.
Andrea M.
Wow! I'm a not so new nubie and think your drawings are way better than anything I could do! In my opinion, choose the tool you like, try other things as you go. I started with just a handful of graphite pencils. I later got 3 charcoal (hard, med, soft) pencils. I switch often depending on paper or what I am doing. I don't think it matters. Just keep drawing!
James Goodman
Andrea M.
3yr
I did gesture over and over again and finally decided to just move on to the the next lesson. I still practice gesture everyday, and now that I've done some of the the other lessons, I am starting to better understand gesture...finally starting to see some improvement.
Al F
Spent some time analyzing reference photo to determine landmarks and wanted some feedback. Even in a clear reference like this, I'm having trouble figuring out where the scapulas are, triangular expansion, the teres major muscle, iliac crest, PSIS, Sacrum are. Anything annotated here that is wildly off where it should be? Stepping back, is this a useful thing to do, or do people recommend that you just jump straight into gesture plus landmarks?
Andrea M.
3yr
I don't know if it is a recommended approach or not, but I've been doing the same. I find it useful for two reasons: 1) Helps me remember the names of these boney landmarks, as I've been annotating with the full name, and 2) practicing seeing the landmarks helps me see them faster, more, etc. I find the scapula hard too. I think I would have put them in pretty much the same place you did :)
Andrea M.
Here's a few different animals from shapes. The tiger I used really boxy shapes, a mixture on the giraffe and got a little more fluid/rounded with the birds. Feedback welcomed! thx.
Andrea M.
Hi All, I've been doing a lot of gesture and beans lately and even combined the two. I'll do a 30 second gesture and follow up with a quick bean. Here are a page of beans (one of several that I have done) and a few samples of gesture with bean. Look forward to your feedback. Thanks.
Andrea M.
Hi all here are some gesture samples. Most are 2-3 minutes, but truth be told, I sometimes stop the clock if I'm struggling, so a few may be more like 4-5 minutes. Also, on some, after the fact, I traced over lines to make them darker. On the images, where I added "Alone" or "With Video" labels, the labels indicate whether I did the drawing on my own (which is always what I try first) or with the video after watching it then playing the section again and drawing along. I do have some scratchy lines, but I also see that as I keep on working, I think I'm getting less scratchy. Feedback welcomed!
Jesper Axelsson
Hi @Andrea M. Nice work! I think you would appreciate reading this critque that I gave another student https://www.proko.com/profile/thosakwe/activity (first post). I attached a paintover where I applied what I wrote in that critique to one of your drawings. TIMING I like to keep the timer mark as a sharp deadline. It helps me move on, and avoid getting lost in detail. But sometimes I give a pose a 2nd attempt without a timer, to analyze it. Giving yourself time to analyze is not a bad thing, I think it's good, but in my experience I find the best ratio to be “a bunch of timed ones : one analyzed” rather than the opposite. I think you´ll learn faster with this approach: "Instead of doing high quality drawings until you can do them in two minutes, do two minute drawings until they reach a high quality." I hope this was helpful :) P.S. I like to share these practice tips with people taking the Figure Drawing Course. Hopefully they can be of some help to you too: "-SOME PRACTICE TIPS: How you practice is as important, or even more important than what you practice. Here are some things that helped me improve faster: STAN´S EXAMPLES For me it was invaluable to look at Stan´s example drawings, following this routine 1. Try to draw the pose myself before looking at Stan´s example 2. Look at Stan and copy his drawing 3. Try to draw like Stan did, without looking at his example I did this over and over, varying up with other poses I found on the internet, trying to bring with me the habits I learned from Stan. DELIBERATE PRACTICE Another thing that was important for me was to be on the look out for things to improve. Improving was simply a long chain of - Doing a mistake - Finding the mistake - Trying to not make the same mistake in the next drawing "
Steve Lenze
Hey Andrea, To begin with, 45 seconds is too short of time to get a good gesture drawing. To do it that fast is very advanced. You need to understand what gesture is and take time practicing it. You should take as much time as you need to really understand it. I took some of your drawings and did a quick draw over to show how your gestures should look. I hope this is helpful :)
Andrea M.
3yr
Thanks, especially on the advice (permission?) to go over 45 seconds! I'll keep working, aiming for more sweeping lines.
Kelsey Lee Martin
For Step 1, Finding out what you enjoy drawing is more important than learning fundamentals. Right now I think the biggest thing you need to do is find the fun and enjoyment in drawing. If you don't have any fun drawing at level 0, the road ahead is just going to be worse. When I was younger, I started off trying to copy my favorite anime or videogame characters just to get a feel of how drawing works. Even if you wanted to trace stuff for fun, that's fine too (I just personally never found that challenging enough to be fun).
Andrea M.
3yr
My daughter paints and starts with a traced reference every time. She also uses the reference to determine colors and layers. I think she is learning a lot about shading, shape, color through the process although it certainly isn't formal training! I see her work improving too.
Andrea M.
Hi all, I'm new to both Proko and drawing in general...and a late starter (55!). I've been working on gesture a bit on my own and finally decided to purchase Figure Drawing Fundamentals. Here are 10 gestures from my first homework assignment. I used quickposes.com set to 45 seconds. I traced over the images afterwards just to darken the lines. I also tried to re-draw the kneeling woman (top right) because the first attempt is all wrong...unfortunately the second doesn't seem any better :( I'm finding gesture relaxing and almost zen-like on some days and totally hate it on others. So much to remember, but I guess that is what the practice is for...got make it second nature. Anyway, feedback welcomed. P.S. -- I like what your are trying to achieve here, supportive, fun learning community!
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