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@vonun
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2yr
added comment inFeedback and help finding my weak points.
Hi
First off I love the pages with multiple characters and objects. How do you come up with so much stuff?
The next thing is. It's really hard to give you feedback when we don't even know what your goal with your art is. What do you want to draw? Do you want to do it professionally or casual? Who are your art parents?
Narrowing it down so people have a much easier time giving feedback is important. There is a thread on it when you go to Community then to Art Lounge. Another way is to listen to the draftsmen podcast episode on it.
There is always so much to say about art. I could tell you a lot of things that are great about your art and things that need some work. But for people getting the feedback it is just too much at once and for people giving it.....well it would take hours giving proper feedback with good resources.
I hope that helps you a lot.
@not_a_name
2yr
I dont plan on drawing professionally at the moment, someone who could be a "parent" and also does things the closest to what i want to do is androidArts: https://twitter.com/AndroidArts , i also like the stuff from modernDayJames, https://twitter.com/_DeadSlug_ and https://www.deviantart.com/ceroticart.
I want to imagine worlds and draw characters and places that belong to it, the fundamentals i want to improve in order of importance to me are:
-Form and structure
-Anatomy(altought not human anatomy necessarily since i like to draw mostly humanoids/monsters, but i want them to look belivable, does it still count as anatomy?)
-Perspective
-Composition
-Lighting and shadow
-Color
I am trying to improve mostly the first three, and altough not a fundamental i am also atempting to improve my visual library and imagination, the way i found out so far to practice that works best for me is picking a theme that would help me to learn something i am lacking at and filling a page with drawings about it.
For example at the moment i want my art to look like it has more structure and better lines so i drew some veicles in image 6, mostly from reference, i am currently drawing a page of veicles from imagination and after that the plan is drawing some more geometrical monsters/creatures trying to keep the tight perspective and forms of veicles.
What are the things i should focus on improving to be more like AndroidArts for example?
I am trying to get some feedback about my art and an outsiders perspective on what is wrong and what areas need improvement the most, i did two posts a while ago asking the same thing and the advice i had was focusing on negative space and better lines.
To try and get better at negative space i filled a page with random shapes and tried to imagine a character from it in image 1,3 and 4, and to get better at linework i tried drawing some more geometrical stuff in image 2,6 and 7, what should i focus on now?
Hey, @not_a_name! I like your sketches, they’re fun to look at!
I think I may have commented on this older post you mentioned, and, from what I remember, you did improve your linework, that’s great!
For this set of drawings, overall, I agree with what fellows suggested below about pushing the gesture and exaggeration - if you can incorporate this as a habit into your practice, it can definitely help take your design skills to the next level.
Another thing I’d recommend is to mind the silhouettes. A good silhouette helps a drawing read better, as well as have a stronger impact and easier recognition. Notice negative spaces (“empty” spots) such as the areas between the arms and the torso, and see how you can use these shapes to design the silhouette of your drawings as an appealing and readable visual element per se.
Here’s a few study resources I like which tackle these subjects:
. @Stephen Silver’s book “The Silver Way”, or his character design courses at https://www.silverdrawingacademy.com
. Wouter Tulp’s “Expressive Characters” course on Schoolism: https://schoolism.com/courses/drawing/expressive-characters-wouter-tulp
. @Marco Bucci’s videos on “Drawing characters”, which is part of one of his courses here at Proko: Illustrating Children's Books (and beyond!)
By the way, these resources are mainly focused on characters, but the fundamentals involved can be applied to pretty much anything: props, environment assets, icons etc.
Also, if you have any other more specific questions, feel free to pop them.
Keep it up! Best regards.
Thanks for the feedback, i have some practice in mind that could improve my ability to see negative space and do poses, i intend to post my progress again as soon as i have more things to post
Crystal Blue (she/her)
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3yr
Your lineart had gotten a lot better! And now that its clearer I can see all the cool details better.
I think now it would help for you to work on gesture to help you draw more expressive poses.
Its much harder thinking of a pose a cool design and descent lines at the same time, hopefully i get better with practice.
I posted asking for feedback about my weak points before and the main critique was about my lineart, i think i got a bit better about it, albeit its still a work in progress, so i decided to post some more of my newer practice for feedback and advice on what to improve, what do you think i'm doing wrong?
I think your stuff is nice. All your drawings have a nice 3D quality about them, and your mech and robot stuff is cool. I think your self critique about your line quality is correct, you definitely need to work on that. I threw some quick lines on one of your drawings, and I think it is all there in your drawing, it's just hard to see because of the line. Keep up what your doing, I think it's good :)
wow thank you so much, its so cool looking at one of my drawings with actual good lineart, i wish i could do it =/, i will try to make some finished lines over that drawing and see how it compares to yours, this will be a huge help.
I'm surprised you think the mech stuff is cool because i kinda hate a lot of them kkk, i want to be able to draw robots well for a personal project but after 5 pages i just ran out of energy to keep working on them, i will give it another go soon.
I like the forms of the 6th cat on page 3.
My advice if any would be to treat it like a life drawing course.
Pick a subject do some fast sketches to get an idea of the flow and action. Then some longer ones to get in some form. Stick with the same subject matter. Different angles and poses should help you get an idea of the volume and movement.
That is sort of what i try to do, sometimes ducks, cats, robots or explosions/smoke i'm trying to understand the subject so i can style and pose it as i wish, i dont really time them but i try to use different poses and make them do stuff and feel alive, but i dont really come out of those feeling i have quite understood the subject well.
Ok, I'll do my best. Looking at all your drawings it isn't obvious to me that your starting with blocky shapes in what your drawing before you start putting in detail. I can see in some drawings your starting with basic shapes and then working inside of them but that's not quite the same thing as working inside 3 dimensional shapes. Phil Dimitriadis has put a lot of videos up on youtube it would help you to look at. Also I would recommend you consider getting Marshalls 1894 perspective drawing class video's from his website(best purchase I ever made) that will help you start thinking in 3D when your drawing.
Keep at it your drawings already look really good.
I often start with a simple skeleton, like a circle for the torax, pelvis and head and some line connecting them, but i dont draw every shape as a fully 3D thing outside of specific studies that i havent dont in a while.
I will take a look at Phil stuff on youtube and try to do a few drawabox style exercices with shapes to see if they help, thanks.
I’m not an expert but it doesn’t look like there’s anything wrong with those. The style is different from what I usually see on the internet but it looks really cute.
you could try erasing stay marks to make the lines look a little cleaner, but don’t lose the variation in line weight that you have.
you can also try studying art you like, that’s always useful.
I wouldn’t worry about it so much though (easier said then done ofc lol). Just focus on your fundamentals (which are already pretty good) and you’ll be fine.
Its just that i have the messy line problem since i started, i was hoping it would eventually go away and my things would look neater, but its still just as messy.
I tried erasing my mark and i can kinda make something more polished that way, but it seems like a bad idea on the long run since i wont learn how to make the finished lines properly.
Thanks for the feedback.
cant give any advice, but those ducks are rlly cute
