Hi @John Masterton, nice studies! I think you've done a good job capturing the feeling of gravity, and the anatomy looks pretty accurate too! One thing I noticed is that the shapes of the breasts differ from the photo reference; Bottom left: her left breast points up quite high, like a cone, compared to the reference, which is more a flattened cylinder. Bottom right: Her left breast curves up too much in the drawing, which makes it loose the feeling of gravity Maybe this happened because you weren't thinking of the breasts as 3D structures. It would be interesting to see you approach the breasts with the same structure mindset, as when drawing the mannequin or when studying the bones (I attached an image from another critique. You can ignore the "1. 2. 3."- thing; that was only for that specific critique. I just wanted to show you breasts drawn as 3D structures. (They are kinda like jellyfish on top of the ribcage) Or maybe this happened because of the drawing process. One thing that helped me a lot was to follow along with Stan and mimick his process. One thing I found him do was drawing an oval envelope for each breast. These were not simple outlines of 2D shapes; with it he encapsulated the form and indicated it's interaction with the ribcage. Very simple but showing a lot. Hope this helps :)

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Hi @John Masterton, nice studies! I'll do my best to help you further: - Be mindful about proportion. In most of these you're making them too large. In the bottom right the body of the scapula is too small. To keep my proportions in check I like to compare the scapula to the sternum: they are the same length. You find a proportion diagram in this video at 1:16 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJMoplyGboI&t=75s This might also help you get the proportions right: When I go to a new lesson in the course I always start by drawing from the 3D-model, until I can draw the bone from imagination ( not perfectly, but I have "acquainted" myself with the bone; its form and proportions ). I do this before I start finding the bones on a model. I don't know if this will help, but in a critique to another student I described how I think an artists "X-ray vision" works. I attached a screenshot Keep up the good work!

Looking great! - I think you're making the sternum too long. Remember that it ends halfway down to the 10th rib corner, not the 12th Hope this helps :)

Hi @John Masterton, good studies! - Remember that the cap farther from us should be a more open ellipse. So in a top view, the bottom cap should be more open. I attached some paintovers of other students' work explaining this - The bucket is not a perfect cylinder, it's compressed, which can make it tricky to draw. One thing that helped me was to start by thinking in terms of a cylinder, then find were the front and back is. The compression happens here. In your bottom left drawing you had the compression happen on the sides, which isn't the case for the pelvis bucket. (see attached paintover) What I described above is a more technichal way to go about it. Another way is to imagine holding the bucket in your hands. Look at your drawing, imagine holding it; does it feel right in your hands? Is it the same form as the 3D-model. Touch, is something that has helped me understand and draw form more intuitively Hope this helps :) Keep up the good work!

Very good, Tony. They all look solid and clean. Right now, what I think you can improve is perspective. the issue i'm seeing in most of these drawings are parallel lines that don't converge and forms that are pointed in the wrong way like the sacrum for example. The bottom right one is the prime example of this. Whenever you're drawing like this, always have in your mind the box form. Ask yourself which lines are parallel, because when they are drawn in perspective they will converge to the same point. And be careful when you're laying the definitive lines. The pelvis on the middle for example you drew the bucket correctly but in the final drawing you draw the line of the psis converging to the wrong point. You're in the right way but you need a fine tuning, So keep drawing boxes until you get an intuitive sense on how lines converge in perspective. Best regards

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Great job! - Make sure to keep the tapering from bottom to top consistent. In some of these it's a little wobbly Keep up the good work!