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Green Ethics
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3yr
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I'm going to take the plunge into online art instruction... I've been wracking my brain with the choices... I'm stuck debating Watts atelier of the Arts online Full course $200/month vs Evolve artist $249/ month, materials included... Any feedback appreciated.
Green Ethics
3yr
I am flabbergasted that not one person has comments on this. This is precisely what I find most disappointing with Proko and why I really feel like I wasted my money here. Not that anyone will bother reading this but it makes me feel better having said it. Live and learn as they say. Just not here.
@patrisco
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3yr
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Hey guys, here are some of my 2 min gesture drawings. I feel like some of them are slightly stiff, any advice to make them feel a bit more fluid?
I'm just a student here but these resemble mannequinization more than gesture to my untrained eyes.
Hey! Something that a lot of people do is draw circles, or straight lines. Scott Robertson has a chapter in his books about drawing exercises to get your hand warmed up. I know that @Sinix does spirals of different sizes as well.
When it comes to setting aside time for that, I really don't know any pros who do dedicated drawing exercises. I know that they'll spend time occasionally just doodling circles to get warmed up, but when they're dedicating time to art they're generally just doing the art. I asked @Rembert Montald about what he does to practice his drawings, and he'll generally just invent figures from memory.
In terms of actual studies to be done as exercises, figure drawing workshops are always great to be doing.
@Kristian Nee ..."figure drawing workshops are always great to be doing." can you elaborate on what this is? Do you simply mean going to a live drawing session with model?
What makes me go hmmm....?
Watching all these videos and draftsmen podcasts and never seeing Marshall actually draw anything!?!
I am aware Stan and Marshall both feel they have worked this topic to death. I disagree. People continue to struggle with this despite an enormous amount of material available. Something I neglect to see discussed in those videos pertaining to self-education and something I desire and something I hear echoed among many: Structured assignment. I guess without expanding an additional category to your concept it would best fit under 'Feedback'.
It is difficult for the first time artist or beginner to come up with good practical ideas of just what to draw and how to approach said project (the focus or mindset. ie modelling, color, composition.. etc.) to get the most out of the experience at a particular stage in their progression.
You may say draw anything, draw everything. But that is no good for the beginner. He wants to be told what to do and how to go about it to gain the best results. Keeping in mind the buckets of gemstones from your interview with Flint Dille (mostly the idea of being challenged without becoming overwhelmed) Also keep in mind the art student isn't just learning to draw. He is learning to be creative. I should reword that... He is learning to 'access' his creativity.
https://youtu.be/5xkn7VWdKZ8?t=4937 - James Gurney’s Self-Education Journey - Draftsmen S3E04 (~1:23:00) James Gurney sums it up beautifully.
"What a good teacher should probably do.. is come up with a real specific challenge that they are likely to succeed at, but that brings them to a higher level of understanding and then take everything out of the equation that might confuse them too much..."
This is something missing from self-education that I see being of great benefit in propelling growth that is available at the art school. This note is designed for Stan and the Proko team but any feedback (esp. where one might find these sorts of lesson assignments) is appreciated. I hope my words make sense of my desire. I know I'm not alone in this.
