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George Rabbitearl
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1yr
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What coming after gesture drawing?Hallo @Proko
Thanks to your fantastic drawing basic course (gesture, rythm) and some years experience of drawing as a hobby I think I understand the gesture phase (see attachments).
But what is comining next? In one of the attachments I added the muscles on top like you didand did and some core shadow drawing (with krita on PC and pen display).
I know that I don't want draw hyperrealisitc or fine art, but the figure should be belivable and should have a good gesture.
I think my goal is something between Illustration and semi realistic and sometimes abstract.
Can't describe it yet excatly.
Man thanks for your course and online youtube videos
Best regards
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George Rabbitearl
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1yr
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Hallo.
Hope you are well.
I am drawing as a hobby since some years, and want to get better in figure drawing. Therefore the gesture course of proko comes at the right spot. I tried different gesture drawings methods (force drawing, reilly method, and other found on youtube). This gesture method is the most logical method for me. Although there are templates from proko, he also says you can find your own methode with time. I like this, because it is not so strickt like force or reilley (I know prokos method is based on reilly but it is not so strickt).
Constructive Feedback is welcome :-)
Thanks, George
George Rabbitearl
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1yr
I am doing gesture drawing the last years, buts this is still the best explained video about it. I find the reilly rythm very complicated, and in this type of gesture drawing the torso part fitts better what you are seeing. Thanks
George Rabbitearl
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2yr
Constructive criticism is welcome.
Here are my thoughts:
- Snail: Here it was easy just to think in CSI lines.
- Shoes: The first run failed completely because the object was too complex. So I broke it down into simple big shapes, e.g. the upper shoe part cylinder, the lower as simple another simple shape where I draw the cross contour lines drawn This helped me to think in 3D better.
George Rabbitearl
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2yr
Hi, here is my snail excersice. Like the CSI method :-) Constructive feedback is welcom :-)
Alexis Riviere
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2yr
I drew along the video, trying to follow the process for front/side/back poses.
Depending on the pose, it wasn't always clear which line I was intended to draw, so I may have some weird stuff there and there. I need to spend some time studying what each rhythm means, I guess.
Yes that is the thing with some teaching methods that they are easy to draw (for me) with standard standing poses (contra posta, bending a little bit). But I don't found more information how to apply reilly on more complex methods.
Because I visit regular live classes you can strugle a lot if you don't know how to apply. Than I fall back to sketching messy the figure instead of applying one method if I have only five to ten minutes for a figure.
@Alexis Riviere I think you did the correct way to experiment. But I had the hope that I found more information in this payed course. I will not say that I am disappointed, this is more of a constructive critique for this course. Perhaps @Brian Knox can add also some complex poses (or did I oversee something, than sorry)...
Please don't understand me wrong: I like the reilly rythm and want go beyond the standard poses :-)
George Rabbitearl
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2yr
Hallo @Michael Hampton
thank you for the video, the gesture drawing is very well explained.
Regarding torso, I would be interested to know how different this is from the bean torso method? The bean torso method uses two "circles/ellipses" to represent the chest and pelvis in a simplified way. But to me the end result looks similar. Is the only difference that the C curves guide the eye better through the body parts?
Do you offer a course with feedback?
Thanks a lot
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2yr
Yep, I'm sure it's basically the same. This type of gesture might just be a step prior to laying in shapes (beans).
I do offer courses with feedback through Brainstorm school. Here is a link if you're interested
https://www.brainstormschool.com/
To draw like Loish or Glenn Keane, knowing CSI and the gesture drawings in the figure drawing course is enough "textbook knowledge" you need, IMHO. After that what you need to do is a lot of practices, and master copies of your favorite artists. Post here and people can tell you where the gap is. Slowly narrow the gap and you'll get there.
I see some drawings that you posted. You're on the right track, but you still need more mileage. It's like when a child starts to learn how to write, and he wants to write beautiful script. A teacher taught him how to write script, but he knows he's not there, and he wonders what else he needs to learn. But you know the kind of mature, slowly scripts come from years of writing with deliberate practices.
Hi @Rebecca Shay . Thank you very much for the answer. Attached are a few sample gesture drawings of mine. I am also a fan of Ryan woodward, joshhunterblack. But also the sketchy style of proko in the drawing course. My goal is not to draw photorealistically. Somewhere between gesture/expressive/sketchy/semi realistic. Sometimes in my gesture drawings I feel I draw too clean, I would like to draw more expressive/sketchy/unclean, like in my last drawing a few days ago (face). I'm already more messy than I was a year ago and allow myself to be imprecise at the beginning or to draw from big to small/detail, but it still doesn't quite hit what I want/imagine. What I know is, that I like energetic lines, drawn from should what I learned in force drawing. But force drawing is to formulistic for me. Hope I do not confuse you to much, but I am in a searching process :-)
George Rabbitearl
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2yr
As proko suggested I make a version before proko makes the demo. So I make a version before and after the demo. In the demo of the smail I see, that proko makes an envelope and predrawing before the CSI method. This helps a lot. From figure drawing I am used to go directly into CSI.
