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Demetrio Cran
Demetrio Cran
I was born in 1980, and I have always drawn in my free time. In 2015, I decided to dive deep into the fundamentals. I would like making graphic novels
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Phil
Just for fun, wanted to draw the reference as is to show more of the car details. Harder to see the cylinder work but these cars are too neat not to draw
Demetrio Cran
Beautiful car and good sketch
Brody Bohrn
I did a school bus for my vehicle. I tried to turn the front wheels to practice different vanishing points on cylinders in the same piece. I’m still a little weary on cylinders in perspective, mostly just with angling the elipse, does it look convincing? If not, any advice would be great!
Demetrio Cran
Hi! Great construction. I made a quick screenshot and annotations to show you that you did a great job and a not-that-good one in the same wheel! :-) The issue is in the "point" of the ellipse, it should be symmetrical and smooth, just as you did in the bottom part.
Demetrio Cran
Hi! I know people with problems with that too. You might find this useful: Book: Conquering carpal tunnel syndrome and other repetitive strain injuries: a self-care program (1996) by Sharon Butler (You might find page 36 interesting) and Brandon Dayton YouTube Channel: Managing Hand Pain for Artists.
@prymitywizm
Thanks a mill! <3 I will check it out!
Daniela Grippo
Demetrio Cran
Hola Daniela! Creo que entre Argentinos podemos hablar en Argentino :-) Lo que dice Steve es muy acertado, creo yo. Es posible que te entusiasme mucho la anatomia y estés usando esa energía para sentarte a dibujar, pero veo que no te vendria mal reforzar algunos fundamentos. Por ejemplo, Steve menciona el gesto. Yo sumo la forma en que usas el "sombreado" para describir el volumen. Creo que podés usar de referencia a Steve, que con gran economía (solamente dos tonos) muestra mucho volumen y con gran claridad. Por supuesto que Steve es muy avanzado, pero lo que se puede sacar de la experiencia es que tal vez sea buena idea probar con un sombreado más simple. Bueno, es un gusto encontrame con dibujantes de argentina.
@renegaderumi
Tried a snail again after watching the critique. Still finding myself rushing a lot. Will keep trying, and focus on slowing down. Any tips on how to have a slower work flow to take more care with lines are super welcome. I went in wanting to spend 20 minutes on it and raced through in 5!
Demetrio Cran
Hi! try ghosting your lines, which means to make the move of your arm almost touching the paper with the tip of the pencil. Do 2 to 4 ghosting of each line as a rule (I do not like the word rule... maybe think of it as a tool :-). That will slow you down. It is better if you take the time to observe in each ghosting, but sometimes is enough to put attention on the biomechanics of drawing.
scott ford
Hey Geert-Jan me too except I am a lot older , been drawing informally since I was a kid. Several years ago took several basic drawings classes locally , started drawing a lot. Then I ran into Proko YouTube’s and decided I needed to take a class. I was a computer professional and retired and decided to do more art. So like yourself I am doing a reboot. I found huge gaps in the art classes I took and the ones I am taking with Proko.
Demetrio Cran
Hi Scott, I have a bit more than two decades ahead before retirement. I am pursuing art in my free time, amazed by all the free resources at my fingertips. I found studying art very meaningful, and I totally imagine myself doing a lot of that after leaving the workforce. See you around!
Danet
This is a great question. I think what you want to learn Is how to draw primitives from any angle. Most perspective books and courses focus on the technical part of drawing 1,2 and 3 point which is great for drawing buildings, and cars, but useless for figure drawing. Here’s a video that might help. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOIu5EKYsNA&list=PLJzu3mFdwCxDP3_ekqj8qK8kcQqKfvzTx&index=60 I would Also recommend just drawing several sheets of cubes turning in space and getting feedback. I’ll be happy to take a look at them. Good luck!
Demetrio Cran
Hi Danet! I am from Argentina, so we could do this in Castellano! But then other people would not understand us....so here goes my bad English! I agree with the goal "how to draw primitives from any angle". But, I know from experience that you could use intense technical perspective practice to learn intuitive perspective. I would not discuss what is the faster way because I think that it will vary with the subject.
Kristian Nee
Hey Finlo, that's a common complaint that a lot of people have about drawing advice. I think you're correct to be frustrated and I don't think that advice is actually help when worded that way. The thing that teachers don't clarify when telling you this is both are actually the same advice. What I mean by this is they're essentially trying to achieve the same thing. When a teacher tells you this, they've both failed a ton, and have done it intentionally. When "doing it right", you're doing it intentionally and focusing on every step of the process to make sure you make any bad mistakes. Where people get caught up is the focus on over analyzing everything and as a result make no progress. Obviously that's bad because you're stuck potentially making the same mistakes or hyper focusing on parts of the process that might require a looser form of drawing. When people say "do it a lot", they mean to draw with intentionality but not getting caught up on the parts of drawing that are holding you back. That can be negative because you might move past things that you should pay more attention to. The goal of both is to get you to a place where you're not paralyzed or afraid of drawing and the problem is falling too much into one or the other. The real way to get over this stuff is to stop over analyzing both ways of studying and start trusting yourself more. You're a good artist, and you're on the right track. The question you should ask yourself is do you personally believe that about yourself? Do whatever actually makes you want to draw more. Don't "try" to draw more intuitively, just draw more intuitively. And when you're thinking about whether or not you should draw more, the answer is always yes. Good luck
Demetrio Cran
Hi! I am here a year later, sorry for reply to such a old answer, but I am kind of sceptical of the "keep drawing" advice. I mean, is drawing itself is the purpuse, because is good for your metal health, go ahead. But, another view is having a purpose to draw and be connected with that purpuse in order to know how to practice. If you want to be insanely precise in your drawings, well you should practice that. On the contrary, if you want to be an abstract expressionist, you should get loose. (i am just saying to illustrate my point). Finally, I am in touch of the current discussion of AI, and I wonder how much this concern is related with artist that do not have a voice of his own, because that is something that a AI can not do till become sentient (and that may not happen ever). I am not talking of style, i am referring to ideas. Thanks for reading and sorry for my odd grammar, it happens that English is my second language. Saludos!
Demetrio Cran
Hi. This is a hard question because it will depend on how you like to study. I have an analytical mind. For instance, I do programming. So, I liked to understand how perspective works. If you want to follow that path, I recommend David Chelsea's books and Scott Robertson's learning materials.
@prymitywizm
Thanks! I am definitely analytical, for the love of grandma I cannot "feel" or "just see" if something is right or not - I need to have rules that allow me to understand something, than, when it clicks I can diverge, but I need that logical fundament,
Grundini
I had another go at a figure drawing and also tried out some shading. Unfortunately I messed up the figure's size and placement on the paper and therefore decided to stop above the knees. Also the torso is squashed a bit. Apart from these things I'm quite satisfied with the outcome, especially since this is my first real attempt at this. As always feedback and critique is appreciated.
Demetrio Cran
Hi! It is hard to critique this detailed rendering! But I will try. Overall, I think that your are right to be satisfied, it is a great piece! Congrats! Maybe, next time, you might try to design big shadow shapes. I mean, to try to separate the shadow shapes from the light shapes right at the begining and, keep them separated till the end. For instance, I believe that the pectoralis is to light for being in the shadow family. What do you think?
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