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Carlos Javier Roo Soto
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I got a question @Marshall Vandruff , I did 30 rooms so far, and it's been a week since my last post and still haven't done room iterations. Do I need to do 30 more again for it to count as 50? Meaning, do I need to do 50 in a row so it counts?
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7d
You don't need to do 30 more for it to count as 50.
But if you feel like you should, listen to that!
The issue is not the exact number, the issue is to make sure you have this way of thinking (upview=downlines; downview=uplines) into your instincts so you'll hardly have to think about it anymore, you'll just know where to send the lines.
50 is a safe enough number, IF you are doing them with full concentration. 30, 50, or 100... Draw the ups and downs as if you'll never get another chance to again!
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Here's my 2nd batch. Next, my scene iterations. Maybe is the mechanical pencil feeling, my carpal tunnel or the fact I'm drawing smaller, but I can't for the life of me draw straight lines as before. I am doing Peter Han's exercise he show earlier in the course as warm-ups. Hopefully they will help.
I also bought Stan's Drawing Basics course taking advantage of the sale, and I'm all set for when part 2 of this course drops. Any advice about juggling both courses and these eye-level assignments?
I keep forgetting to repeat myself "Looking up, lines go down. Looking down, lines go down" and I think more of XYZ.
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Here's my first try. Next time I'll just sketch the outlines free-hand instead of using the tools, it will be quicker. I guess that more I do this, the more details I can add in 5 minutes. Just wish my dexterity was better.
See anything that I should improve on? Would it be better to start with room itself first before adding furniture?
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5d
Good work Carlos, and in answer to your question, it's almost always best to go for big things first.
So yes, room first, furniture later, but more generally: earth and sky first (via horizon), then room, then furniture.
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Is there a reason that looking up is less intuitive than other angles? I did a couple rooms and tried to experiment with some basic skull constructions. It helps to draw through but I need to slow down as well.
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QUESTIONS: Should I draw from photos only and/or life? Are other artist work acceptable? Is it thumbnails like the examples show in the video or is it a full page quick sketch? Do I draw one example in 5 minutes first then redraw it in 3 minutes, then in 1 minute?
Also, I notice you are giving demonstrations like the one of this book, should I read the chapters on Eye-level as a companion for this lesson?
Can anybody recommend where to find examples that aren't ai generated?
And finally are you annoy by this many questions? If so would you accept my apologies?
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25d
Carlos,
That's a lot of questions, but I'll do my best here to help get you on your confident way!
Photos or life, either is fine. Life is harder, but probably better for you if you're up to the challenge of "binocular vision" and distractions and a changing environment. Photos are easier because they stay fixed and are already flat, so starting with photos is good for any student who finds this scary.
Working from other artists is fine too, but the problem is that artists take liberties, and you may find that their views don't quite conform to the world the way romance stories don't quite conform to romance. If you want to work from the examples in the video, why not? They were from students working to "tell the truth" of their rooms, and may get you started with their simple approaches.
The increase in speed is to start you slowly enough not to freak out, but when you are comfortable, speeding it up to increase your focus on what's important: eye level. I think it's even a good idea to say out loud the "up goes down" and "down goes up" mantras because that is the purpose of this lesson — to drive in that awareness.
Remember, this is not about slick drawing, it's about noticing, now and forever, what's above and below you, and drawing it with ease.
Norling's books are good. Use them. Use any books that help. They may add things I have not taught you. But the job here is to draw room after room after room, learning to aim up, down, and away.
Honored to be chosen as an example. Even though I'm not worthy Master Marshall.
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And here's my final batch for the assignment. I don't know why I have such a hard time doing cleaner sketches, but is a habit I have for years now. Any advice on how to break it easily?
I also notice that I had a harder time doing this ones compare to my first time, maybe is because I took some short break from the assignment to give some rest to my hand. And my first go-to with the grids came shortly after two whole weeks grinding XYZs and the arrows in space.
I realize too that the farther wheels on the final drawing are way off in size compare to the ones closest to us, even though I was certain I got the box right before building the buggy, and even though I didn't have an ortho view of the back I think I got pretty close, what do you guys think?
Also, I forgot @Rachel Dawn Owens had give me some feedback on my first try and didn't keep that in mind while doing these ones. Sorry Rachel I'll try to pay more attention next time.
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Alright! Here's my first attempt to this assignment. I had drawn with grids before so the new element I dealt with was labeling the vanishing line as XYZ to keep them on the back of my mind as I eyeballed the orthos. It was hard drawing the lines that converge outside the page because I don't have a longer ruler and probably they are a little off, so when I had the money I'll buy a larger one and move stuff from my desk and attach more paper to make them more precise.
Like Marshall said, I kept them simple with no details and just make them simple forms, but I am doing more so maybe for the last one I will add details. Or maybe I should let the detail for later on in the course?
What do you think? Should I dare add details for future submits? Or instead of detail should I use secondary forms so it resembles more the buggy without details?
What mayor errors can you see?
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2mo
These look awesome to me! The ellipses are angled the right way and the simplified forms are designed nicely.
Only thing I might do is make the wheel bigger. The 4 wheels are the most important element. Then the seat, then the windshield area, then the smaller details.
Work big to small and make your drawing as epic as you can.
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I dared to foreshortening, but I'm ashamed to say I didn't dared enough. Also I don't think I was in the right mindset while doing this.
I was thinking more of having this done today to be critique than actually putting conscious effort into applying the lessons here. Also probably switching to the ruler halfway wasn't the best idea, since it change the objective from trying to understand space to precision. Would you guys agreed?
Think maybe I should try with the blob approach for a while or keep trying to rough it out right away even with my poor straight line quality? Or a combination of both?
What should I been thinking while doing these?
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2mo
The front view looks really cool!
