Ben M
Ben M
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@brandogriank
I did a mango but I don’t get the shadowing part
Ben M
2yr
Hmm, this reference image might be a bit tougher because the mango has its own colors that make it harder to see where the shadows are. In your drawing it seems like the light is coming from below because that's where the largest highlighted area is, but that's actually just reflected light and could be drawn as a shadow value (I think Stan talks about this in the critique video of this project), and the main highlight is in the upper middle of the mango. It might be worth trying again with a fruit that has only one color so that it's more clear where the light and shadows should go. The pear images in the downloads tab are worth checking out to see what to look for.
@robelrb
I'm using toned paper, so I tried playing around with a white color pencil for the highlights. This was fun, I'll definitely practice this same project with different fruits. Thanks!
Ben M
2yr
I tried using a warm tone paper for the first time for this project, and I used basically the same value scale as you, but when I did the pear I found that the highlights with a white pencil stood out too much and looked wrong somehow. I got some advice to try lightly using the white pencil (instead of a graphite) as the light halftone so that the pure white highlight doesn't look out of place, and that helped me a bunch, I liked it way better. I think you did a great job here but it might be worth a shot if you feel like trying something different!
Alina
This is my second pear after I watched the demo and the critique videos! The values were easier now that I used two different pens (I think it was HB and 2B)
Ben M
2yr
Wow, great shapes and super clean tones! It would take me forever to get it that clean. Great job!
Ben M
Here's an attempt at the portrait. I had it mostly finished more than a month ago but kept fiddling with it😅. This was a really fun exercise overall!
Audrey S
2yr
I'm not sure if it's the toned paper, but I'm having a hard time distinguishing some of your mid tones. If you do happen to re do, I would love to see a different value range selections so your midtones are easier to distinguish! Otherwise, I love the toned paper with white pencil!
Ben M
Asked for help
Gave it a shot. Really struggle with line control, so I'm excited to practice more. Some of the sloppiness is because I started to add more detail lines but then decided against it, but I drew the lines too dark to erase fully :(
Malakai King
Hey Ben, there's a lot to be proud of here. You nailed the proportions, direction, and placement of the antennas. The proportions and placement of the snail's body is good also. The only issue I see is the snail's left wing is slightly high. Just a suggestion, maybe adding the bevel lines of the shelf may have given you more reference points for placement. But maybe not people's brains work differently. The lines of the shelf got a little out of alignment. The shell proportions are slightly small. I think a lot of us are struggling with line quality. That's why we are here. Great job, keep it up.
Twylo
2yr
I’m finding line control to be incredibly hard too. They say it gets better with practice, and I hope they’re right
Jean Gao
Hi all, here's my attempt at pear #2. Biggest lesson learned? Plan the whole drawing before getting detailed! Hopefully the shadow falling behind the value chart isn't too distracting. I'm not sure I spaced the values evenly enough, and a less textured paper might've made things easier. Picking out the difference between the two shadow values was a challenge. Thanks in advance to anyone who takes a look!
Ben M
2yr
I love the choices you made in the shadow area! I feel like the shape of the core shadow really helps illustrate the form. Looking at this one is actually pretty helpful for me because I wasn't sure what to do there!
Malakai King
This is my first attempt. I hope we can submit multiple tries. I found it hard to get the separation of tones, with a #2 pencil, only. next time I will try multiple hardnesses, as mentioned. I know I fell on my face with the shadow.
Ben M
2yr
Honestly, I think it's pretty impressive to get that much tonal clarity out of just one pencil! I used pencils with multiple hardnesses and I feel like yours is just as, if not more clear!
John B
Went with Pear 3 and tried to keep every edge sharp. Here's my self critique. Shape: I feel like I did okay here. My overall pear shape is a bit more upright, but it's not the worst thing in the world. My shadow shapes within the pear are rough but I was focused on simplifying as much as possible. Values: I definitely think this is the weakest part of the sketch. I feel like the biggest problem with this drawing is the value range. Going with white charcoal for the highlights was probably a bit too much. I also had problems erasing white charcoal once it was on the paper so this made me commit to areas that I later wanted to adjust. Will keep that in mind for future projects. Edges: I don't have too much to say here. I feel like I kept all my edges sharp. The only area that I could have sharpened was the cast shadow. If you see anything I could improve on please leave a comment. I'm starting from level 1 here so any feedback is greatly appreciated.
Ben M
2yr
Nice work! Love how clean your lines are. Just wanted to say I also tried using a white pencil on toned paper for the highlights in my attempt and I felt like it might have been too much for me too. Not sure what to do about it though, because it seems like just leaving the paper tone as the lightest value would be quite dull! Next time I do it I might try making the highlighted areas smaller so it won't be as overwhelming.
Ben M
This took me a while! Tried doing it on toned paper to spice it up a little. Would love to hear critiques. Some things I think I struggled with: - How to do core shadows I know I'm "supposed" to put in core shadows, so I did, but I can't really see them in the reference image, so I'm not sure how to do them correctly. I kind of just traced the dark area with an even darker area and crossed my fingers! - Choosing shapes in the halftones I think the hardest part of the project for me was choosing where to draw the lines between the light and dark halftones. I think if I were to give this project another shot, I would try to be more intentional about choosing shapes that accentuate the structure of the object. I kind of just went with my best guess from observation here. - Clean shading Every time I thought I was done shading, I would take a step back and notice all these patchy spots and conspicuous lines. I'd carefully go over the offending areas again, but the issue would just move somewhere else! I think I ended up in a place I'm okay with, but I think I got lazy towards the end, especially in the background. I definitely need to practice shading large areas smoothly. Another question I had was about the highlights. Are they too white here? Can highlights even be too white? For some reason they look a little out of place to me, but maybe it's the just the shape and size that are the issue.
Malakai King
I agree, to my untrained eye, the highlights look a little too white. Your shading and linework are great, though. How long did it take you to render this, just curious. It's been taking me about an hour and 15min to an hour and 45min.
Jean Gao
2yr
I love this! I think the shading came out nicely, and the shape of the shadowed area on the left shows the pear's form very well. I was unsure how to do the dark bits that stick out in the upper left in my own drawing; it's interesting to see how others handled it. I like that you included the jagged parts of the shadow but still managed to keep it simple. We also seem to have had the same realization about being intentional with shapes partway through the drawing. Next time! I think you may be right about the highlights. In the demos, the tone of the paper itself was the highlight, but here your highlights are brighter than the paper. If you did a value chart of everything in the image, the paper tone would have its own spot, even though it's not used on the pear. I tried doing three versions digitally based on your values. The first was from eyedropping parts of the image, the second is the first converted to grayscale, and the third is a 5 value scale, removing the value of the paper. The difference between the highlight and the next shade looks bigger to me than the difference between any other pair of adjacent values. The highlight is also a cooler white than the warm color of the paper, which will make it stick out more in contrast even when the values are perfect.
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