Traditional Portrait the 2d
3yr
W.I.M.U
Hello. This is my second attempt at drawing this portrait. This time I did my best to have the good proportions and shading the face features correctly. But I did struggle with the hair. Does the hair feels disconnected from the head?I! Thanks to @Christopher Beaven and @John Harper for your previous advisers!
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Christopher Beaven
Definitely an improvement from the last drawing. After reading the comments from others I would have to agree with the same. Too many lines = an older person. Lining up the brow, eyes, nose, mouth and chin in perspective. Treating the hair as masses rather than individual strands. But don't get discouraged. This is all the stuff that every single amazing artist has gone through in the past. The only difference between you and them is that they have put in more reps. And you're putting in some super effective reps by trying, asking for feedback and targeting your weaknesses first. I expect you will get better at all this a ton faster if you keep up that method. So, that's my tip. Keep putting in the reps!
W.I.M.U
3yr
Thank you very much, I won't give up!
@ag81
3yr
I am sorry but you have aged the woman by 20jears. First yous blend stomp for chading it keeps here young nes, second the cheek and jaw line most be ronde forms and chin wath bigger and ronder. P.S. try for lighting the conté (paris) pencil white. and extend the value rang
W.I.M.U
3yr
Yes she does look way too old, now I know why :) The pencil I use just can't go dark, I guess that's why my values looks weird. Thank you for the lighting too and critiques , always useful
Gavin Jary
3yr
W.I.M.U Can I ask if you did a structural drawing first, or did you try to loosely eye in the proportions? It doesn't seem too bad, but I think with more time spent on measuring and making sure all of the landmarks of the head and face are mapped out before drawing any detail at all, you will suddenly notice a huge improvement. One thing that led me to think this is that the hair doesn't look disconnected as such, but it does look too small, the hair at the back of the head should be almost in line with the back of her ear, on yours, it looks to be more in the middle of her ear, due to a small indentation you have created rather than it being rounded with the skull. If you spend half the drawing or more measuring, marking, and getting the proportions of the anatomy correct, and the other half on detailing and shading, I think you'll see a sudden leveling up of your finish. Hope that helps somewhat.
W.I.M.U
3yr
First thank you for the critiques. I do still struggle with proportions, even though it did the structural drawing. Still need practice here :) Next time I'll put even more effort there, hopefully my portraits will eventually look nice. Feedback is always appreciated this definitely helps. Thank you very much7
Philippe Girard
This is so pretty, i wish i could render as beautifully as you do. Did you follow a specific tutorial? You are much better than i am at drawing hair so there is nothing here for me to critique. However, there is a perspective issue i can help you with: The left eye (the one on the right) and its eyebrow is too high. Also, the chin's own perspective is ambiguous. Finally the mouth should be tilted upward. Keep in mind that if the lady's head was a box, the brow line, eye line, nose, and chin line would converge towards a vanishing point because the left portion of her face further away and therefore smaller than the right.
W.I.M.U
3yr
Oh that's right, I hadn't even noticed! Thank you for the feedback and drawing, I'll use it for my next portrait. I mostly used Proko's lessons and advise to do it, so no specific tutorial I guess. And I'm so glad you like this one. I'll work on my perspective for sure. Thanks again Philippe Girard!
@paper
3yr
Oh hey it's you,yes I think you improve on the proportion of the face.I can see the head has more mass and roudness to it and you didn't just cover it with the hair.The biggest problem I see is that (and I'm sorry for this) your value control hasn't improve much.I think your darks family is still very muddled. For example look at this Ilya Repin drawing,though the eyes and half the face is in shadow,one still could see the pupil and iris.I recommend you investing in some darker pencil (a 6b or 8b would be good) and copying the example I've given.This will allow you to have more control over the value (I also recommend watching this 2 video https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Nap7dwHjD9Y&list=PLLmXZMqb_9sbNLM83NrM005vRQHw1yTKn&index=1 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xcCJ2CU-bFw) As for your question with the hair,I don't think the hair itself feel disconnected from the head,but I think value on it is.It seemed as if you went directly adding the hair strand and not the value underneath. Here is a loose drawing over the photo of the shadow shape,I suggest the next time you're drawing hair,to block in these shapes and add in your average shadow first.(Also here is a more sophistaced block in by Jeff watts,if that helps) Well that's all I got,I'm sorry it end up very long,but hopefully it was useful and not just a waste of time (if not best regards to your art journey anyway) [P.s. I also forgot to say I did a critique on Emory_hotchkiss hair drawing where I went into more detail in how I would categorize learning hair,if that helps https://www.proko.com/course-lesson/how-to-draw-hair/assignments)
W.I.M.U
3yr
Hello, yes me again. The pen I use just can’t go darker then that, I definitely need a new one. Thank you for the tips about the hair, I think I still need a lot of practice. I will do the example you gave me, but I need a darker pen firts. Cant wait to watch the videos. Your detailed answers are always appreciated, thanks again !
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