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Su Lee
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4yr
added comment inRobo Bean Assignment Examples - Twist
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I have a question regarding the last twist example. To me, the torso box is not twisted enough. It seems like lean foward but not obliqued. So I drew many Robo-beans as followed. Which one do you think is the best?
Diana Mata
3yr
Hi @Su Lee . I find it very helpful to line the contour of the figure over the robo bean to avoid disconnecting the top from the bottom (purple line). You pinpointed the landmarks and angles pretty well on the reference, but they aren't replicated in the drawings. For example, in the drawings the hip is going down towards the right, when in the reference it is practically horizontal. I may have exaggerated it on the example (red lines), and made it tilt slightly upwards, but it could help you see where to make an adjustment.
James Mayr
4yr
I have exactly the same question.
Su Lee
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4yr
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I did my landmarks assignments. I tried to focus on finding the landmarks and not losing gesture. But I'm not sure whether my drawings are good enough to move on to the next lessons. Any critique would be appreciated.
One question; Is the line between Greater trochanters always parallel to the line between ASIS(or PSIS)?
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4yr
Regarding your question about greater trochanters.. technically no they are not always parallel because as the femur rotates in the hip joint, the greater trochanters moves around. But the difference is small enough not to worry about it for quicksketch. If you're doing a longer drawing you can consider those subtle angle differences.
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4yr
Your drawings are definitely good enough to continue to the next lesson. Of course that doesn't mean you shouldn't continue to practice finding and indicating landmarks in your sketches. Just like gesture, landmarks are a concept you'll be practicing for a while, especially as you move towards improving your anatomy. But you're ready to watch the robo bean and mannequinization lessons and start practicing those as well. Great job!
Su Lee
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4yr
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Hi! I have so many errors drawing the twisted beans... (the red beans are corrections based on example videos) I confuse whether the torso is much closer to viewer than the hip or not. I want to know How to clearly distinguish it... or did I miss some other things? I’d appreciate some feedback on my drawing.
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4yr
Your bean sketches look nice, @Su L! I think one easy "universal rule" to remember is: whatever is closer to the viewer should overlap what's farther to the back. For example, in your drawing "5": the ribcage's edge overlaps the hips on the left side of the Bean, and the hip's edge overlaps the ribcage on the right side, so that means the torso is twisting in a way that makes the left side of the ribcage and the right side of the hips closer to the viewer. What mainly characterizes a twist is exactly this: the top and bottom part rotate in opposite directions, so if the Bean is twisting, whatever side is closer to the viewer on its top part, then the opposite side should be closer on the bottom part.
Another good tip, especially if you're drawing a twisted Bean from imagination, is to make the overlaps follow the same direction as the gesture so the drawing has a greater sense of flow - for example, in your drawings "2": on the sketch to the left (the one where you wrote "can you spot why this one is wrong?"), notice how the overlaps kind of go against the flow of the S-shaped gesture (they almost collide); on the other hand, on the sketch to the right (the "answer"), the overlaps flow in the same direction as the centerline (and even though you didn't draw the centerline on this one, we can still sense it).
If you're still a bit confused about twists, Stan explains some other things that help clarify it in the Robo-Bean lesson.
Hope this helps! :)
Su Lee
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4yr
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I want to know that My practice works are ok or need to be changed... can I get my works critiqued here?
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4yr
Hey, Su, your sketches look good!! They look simple enough and have a good sense of flow, which is pretty much the core of gesture. It seems to me that, a few times, the lines might be getting a little bit messy, but I don't think this is something you need to be too concerned about correcting - for now, simply keep in mind that it's happening and, over practice, as you gain more control over gesture skills, it is possible that the sketches naturally become a bit cleaner. I'd say there's no need to change your practice, just keep it up!
