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Hello, I'm currently studying the Figure Drawing Fundamentals course. I'm aiming to do gesture exercises as a warm up before study sessions. I still find gesture quite difficult to grasp. I often run out of time or I get too hasty and feel like I could have used my time more carefully. Proportion feels very challenging. I'm not sure how I could become better at it. It feels quite difficult to focus in general, there are so many concepts to keep in mind. I'm posting some 2 minute poses from today as my first test post. I'm very excited about Proko 2.0! I hope to learn to use this website quickly. I'm very grateful for any critique.
KAVISH AGRAWAL
These dont look bad at all! Ideally when studying gesture you should not worry about proportions, the idea is to get fluid C-S-I curves on the page. Proportions will slowly happen, they are separate things.
Jesse Yao
4yr
I'm not sure if it was in the gesture critique video in the lesson or in a draftsmen podcast, but Marshall has said (and Stan has agreed) that proportions are not to be worried about if you're just starting out. Which sounds pretty ridiculous (when I first did those gesture lessons I could not get my head around it either), but you'll find out that after some practice you'll get better at it, and then it'll just come to you after doing "an overkill amount of gesture exercises" (Marshall). Worrying about too much (like measuring out proportions, form, and etc) will overload your brain. Go one at a time. These gesture drawings AREN'T supposed to be finished drawings anyways, later on they'll just be rough quick light layins before the real meat of drawing and rendering kicks in. If this is your first day doing gestures, then just keep practicing them. Learn from other people as well as Stan (like Glenn Vilpu or Mike Mattesi), watch some demos, and keep going. It'll slowly start to get better. As an addition, Stan has said himself to not spend more than 2 weeks on any module of his courses, and to move on whether you're comfortable with it or not. This is to facilitate progress and avoid getting tunnel visioned on perfecting one module before moving on.
Mark Manthorpe
I really like what you've got here, they're expressive and readable. One thing I'd suggest is adding cross contour lines in the arms and legs to help convey depth a bit more. Gesture from my experience get's easier the more you do it. The more you study the other concepts and principles you'll begin to incorportate what you've learn into it. For example when you start to learn anatomy landmarks you'll get clues to the proportions from there and with time and effort it'll get better. I do Gesture as warm up, I have software on my computer I use to do an hour's session of gesture usually everyday before I start my other studies. Below I have posted two images and these are ten minute sketches. One is from 2017 when I first started doing the Figure drawing fundermentals course, the other is from April of this year. So I hope those are motivating? Running out of time and being hasty is what I'm sure everyone else here has experienced when starting out on gesture so you're not alone. Just keep at it. 🙂
Denise Carbuccia
nice! Your gesture drawings are good. I would advice in triangulation to get better at proportions. See if that helps. Keep up the good work!
@vicvandre13
Hi Kaitei, these are really nice! It's really impressive how much to get down and clean it is. These are just some suggestions: Since it's short warm ups, you want to get your brain/eyes to look for thinks like tilt of the shoulder and pelvis (maybe ribcage too depending on the pose) and gesture of the torso>limbs. So that you're sorta automatically looking for those things when you get to the main body of your session. Also, I find that seeing various examples of expressive gesture, while also applying how Stan describes gesture/flow, can be helpful in understanding the effective ways gesture works. Diego Lucia has nice simplified figures https://www.instagram.com/p/CITB_hBDwc9/ This person Richard Powell really strips it down https://www.instagram.com/p/COg-hWpjCfX/ In terms of proportion, it's really something that people get a lot better at with experience, so don't be to concern about it too much at this point. The best thing do get better at this point is: after you've drawn some figures, go back and look at them, and determine and note what proportions are off, draw a little attempt to amend those proportions next to it. I don't know where you're up to, in the course, but Stan will touch on his method and tips to figure proportion out But yeah, these look good. It's great seeing all the work. Good Luck, Peace out.
yuri
4yr
I like the way you draw the flowing lines. Looks so beautiful!
Ewan Coates
I really like the CSI lines you’ve used in a lot of those poses. It’s not easy really getting the gestural curve of something that looks quite straight like a limb, but you’ve done pretty well I’d say. Just be alert to instances where a gesture line gets more complicated than an S curve, and consider in those cases how to simplify it. Another thing you could do more (and this is helped by the looseness of your sketches) is try to connect gestural lines in rhythms that cross one body part to another. I second jean marc in saying that proportions are secondary to gesture, so don’t worry too much at this stage about getting relative lengths and things just right.
jean marc
4yr
hey kaitei, i really love the gesture poses... i think that proportions shouldnt really stop you from achieving the story behind the gesture, proportions only come to play when you want to add structure and mannequin in your gesture... i think in the course proko said that gesture is the first,second,third and last step when constructing the figure. so i think that you should know how to make the difference when doing a quick gesture that tells a story... or doing gesture to add the structure on the mannequin. hope i helped a bit.
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