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@jvuozzo
Does anyone know where I can see some more leg examples? I found with two examples I need some more demos . I lean best by watching? Thanks!
@jvuozzo
Hey Brent. I assume the idea is not to perfect a lesson before moving on. I have been working on the centre line for some time now and certainly I cannot duplicate your work, nor will I ever be able to most likely. Would you suggest working at it, practicing for a couple of weeks then moving on? I am eager to start the lesson in legs but don’t know if I am ready. thanks
Brent Eviston
I think that's a good strategy. What you will find is that getting some space and learning more about other techniques and strategies will improve your centerline skills when you're ready to return.
@jvuozzo
Hi Brent. When you say “Pay attention to the inner curves of the action lines” can you elaborate? Do you mean the general bend in the leg or the twist of the torso for example?
Brent Eviston
I am referring to the tendency people have to lock their action lines to contours, but the action liens are not merely contours, they can represent axes as well. Each part of the body is creviced, even if just slightly. It's a reminder to look for the curve in the overall shape of the form, not just at the contour edges.
@jvuozzo
I am finding the gesture very difficult. I watch the demos and I Michael Hampton does it effortlessly. I can somewhat mimic him but when I go to a pose that’s similar and attempt it on my own, I get overwhelmed. I can’t figure out if the thoracic gesture line is the contour or somewhere approximate. Same with the limbs: is it the edge of the arm or the middle? Anyone else struggling and can give some advice? Am I overthinking it? Thanks
Eyes of Lamia
I struggle with accurate gesture lines too. I have been doing daily gesture studies of 10 - 15 poses 2 minutes each for about a month now, I think it's starting to help a bit.
Michael Hampton
Yep, don't overthink it. Also, this can take a while to learn. Be patient with it. I have additional YouTube videos on Gesture that might answer your questions if you do feel stuck and want more info.
@jvuozzo
First attempt at following along with instructor on step-by-step lesson. One can see my pelvis and egg and box do not align properly but I was pleased with the length proportion.
@jvuozzo
This is my first attempt. I have no prior drawing experience. Just trying my hand at it. Any thoughts?
@jvuozzo
How similar would this be to Stan’s “Figure Drawing Fundamentals”. Would you suggest one over the other or do they complement each other? Thanks
Michael Hampton
Sorry, not too sure. Maybe you could send that question to proko?
@jvuozzo
The drawing is not great but after hundreds of attempts at gesture, I think I am finally getting away from contour.
Anna Sch
2yr
Hi there :) i think you should try to use more s-shaped lines. For this one try to make the curve of the hip and the upper leg as 2 curves flowing into each other. And for the knees try to give a little hint for the patella and dont lose the curve of the calves. I hope that will help a bit. Keep up !
@jvuozzo
I have been struggling with gestures. Two difficulties I have are the width of the limbs and attaching the arms to the torso. Any tips would be appreciated. Thanks
Frank D'souza
I do agree with the other commenters here but I'd like to add something else. You missed the gesture of the torso. Observe the relationship of the ribcage to the pelvis and you will see that there is a noticeable tilt and subtle twist. The tilt is present in your drawing but not as pronounced as it should be and the twist is missing entirely. Here in my drawing, (excuse the terrible lines), I use a bean to indicate the tilt and twist of the torso.
@jianphoenix
I think you’re too focused on contour lines try using 1 or 2 line to describe the direction of the bone then wrapping lines to describe the fat and muscle Proko has a video named “Q&A - gesture vs contour and scribbly lines” that helped me out too
Soul
2yr
The upper part of the leg is a bit too symmetrical, same with the arms as well, remember to try and have assymetry, and also try using more "c" and "s" curves as well. Keep on practicing man you got this
@jvuozzo
Hello everyone. I am drawing basic squares, rectangles and cylinders from different angles and I was wondering what you would suggest for easy to start with drawings. I know Stan uses the camel in the video. Do you take basic cartoons of animals and start from there? I am not sure where to begin. Thanks
Jesper Axelsson
Hi @jvuozzo, as a start you might want to draw things that are already clear geometric forms, like furniture for example. A bed is basically a big box and a sofa might be a few boxes and some cylinders. As for animals, you could start with any, I think. I would recommend choosing an animal that you really like :) to make studies even more fun. It might help to choose an animal with short fur, since the anatomical forms appear clearer then. You could use basic cartoons if you want, but there is a risk that you choose a drawing that doesn't have three dimensional qualities. But if you get to see the construction drawings by someone like Preston Blair, for example, you can learn a lot about using simple forms. ( https://www.traditionalanimation.com/2017/advanced-animation-by-preston-blair/ ) For me the most important exercise in this lesson was to practice drawing boxes and cylinders from different angles. It would be great to see some of the "basic square, rectangles and cylinders from different angles" that you have drawn. Having someone else look at your drawings can help you improve a lot faster. Feel free to tag me @Jesper Axelsson in that post :) When I took this course I was pretty confused by this lesson. I learned how to draw boxes and cylinders from different angles, but I found drawing an animal with simple forms too hard. I felt like I needed more guidance. If you feel the same don't worry. I think you should still try doing some simple form drawings of animals, but for me I got the real grasp of using 3D-forms once I came to the robo bean lesson, and later the mannequinization lesson. Hope this helps :) Keep up the good work!
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