Petra Brandström
Petra Brandström
A life-long hobby artist turned art school dropout turned bookshop employee turned, at times, freelance illustrator. From Sweden.
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Petra Brandström
I'm struggling with finding the body shapes vs simplification. I also think I need to practice confident lines, and patience ^^ Do you guys have any tips on how to view meatier arms other than cylinders? Or is it best to just draw the cylinder anyway, thinking away the muscles? I also find it hard to use a box for the ribcage, especially from the side. It's so round!! How to think of it as a 3D shape with edges and planes? Should I just give myself more time to experiment on each pose? All tips and critiques are welcome!
Jesper Axelsson
Hej @Petra Brandström! Hi Petra! I think these look really nice! Gesture, structure and balance is looking pretty solid! - To improve these drawings, I think I would focus on gesture. I was made aware, contrary to what I thought, that my work was lacking gesture. After having studied some of Heinrich Kley's work, I realized that there is room for A LOT of gesture. In his drawings, it's like every line was part of a stream of water splashing through the body, connecting it and leading the eye. Try to think about this, especially in the limbs. You don't have to exaggerate the poses more, I think, but make sure that every line is part of "the river". - To clarify balance it might help to indicate the ground plane. - About your question: I think I would recommend starting with round forms, then make them more boxy afterwards. Since boxes are so specific they can be a bit hard to handle in the early stages. I found it useful to practice drawing the ribcage as a box, since that skill is a good tool to have for clear perspective, but the actual form of the ribcage is more like an egg. Look at this sketch by Raphael and see how he starts with round forms https://media.britishmuseum.org/media/Repository/Documents/2014_10/1_6/89707534_49f8_4387_b010_a3b700640e57/mid_00030014_001.jpg You'll notice animators starting the same way, I think. I think you'll appreciate this Drawing Demo by Glenn Vilppu. Maybe try to mimick his way of drawing. At 21:00 he explains the process of starting with a flow, then fleshing it out with volumes. Hope this helps :)
@kotka
2yr
For meatier arms, try mixing elliptical and boxy shapes, and show some muscles as plane changes from flat to bulky. It helps me!
Petra Brandström
Ok so I'm going to try to actually follow through on this course, it's really helpful! Here's my version of the example poses.
@madao_400
Asked for help
these are my two minute poses, i struggle to draw foreshortened poses without consuming too much time and my proportions of torso gets weird sometimes, any tips on that? thankyou for reading my post, any feedback is welcome.
Petra Brandström
I'm absolutely not an expert so maybe someone else has better advice, but when I tend to lean too far in one direction on certain features, I find it helpful to consciously try to lean too far the other way. I.e. if your torsos get too large, try to draw them way too small. When you've done it enough you kind of recalibrate your mind to interpret the proportions more accurately. As for things that slow you down, I think it's inexperience that forces us think harder when translating what we see into lines. Just keep practicing and keep it simple!
Petra Brandström
Tried doing these in fineliner. Hard to simplify the shapes, but I hope I got the right ones at least!
Jesper Axelsson
Hi @Petra Brandström, Nice drawings! "Hard to simplify the shapes" Yeah, simplifying is not easy. The Figure Drawing Course has helped me a lot with that. I once made an attempt to start the anatomy course several years ago, but struggled with some of the drawing aspects, like simplification. I suspected something was missing, so I went to the Figure Drawing Course first and it solved those problems for me. And to my surprise the figures felt quite accurate eventhough I didn´t know anatomy. It was like I had learned the pattern of the human body. I realized that rather than thinking of the figure drawing course being an obstacle in front of the anatomy course, it is more like the Anatomy 1 course. Strongly recommend it!
Petra Brandström
Alright, I did them all! I already shared the first one in the comments, but here are the rest too. I really don't know my anatomy, that's clear. I hope I'll get better during the course. If there's anything in particular you think I should work on, all comments are welcome!
Jesper Axelsson
Hej @Petra Brandström Hi @Petra Brandström! I agree with @Grant H Don´t worry about anatomical accuracy at this point. Stan just wanted to show it in the beginning since it's an exercise that you can use as a study tool when you dive deeper into the course.   But I have a few tips as you start doing these within the course:  1. For clarity, vary the lineweight, thicker for the border of muscles and thinner for the muscle fibers (You have some of that already )  2. Avoid floating lines. I want to be clear with how the fibers track so I like to draw them all the way from where they originate to where they insert, and not just indicate them floating in the middle of the muscle.    I hope this helps :)
Grant H
3yr
I wouldn't worry about knowing the anatomy at this point. I think if you work on line quality, that would benefit you the most moving forward. Try to be intentional about having darker lines for the muscles themselves, and thinner lines for the fibers. And if you draw a line and it ends up looking wobbly, you can always erase and redraw it.
Petra Brandström
I realized while doing this that I never actually learned anatomy - at all - in school. Or since. I tried to trace this after watching the video, without looking at the finished tracing. I feel like I have so little knowledge that tracing the rest would be pure guesswork. Would you recommend doing them anyway? I guess they could be good to have to compare my skills to later on, but I'd much rather just learn some anatomy. ^^
João Bogo
4yr
Honestly speaking, I would advise you to do them, but it probably won't hurt you if you don't do it right now. For me the value of this exercise for a complete beginner besides a benchmark of your knowledge in anatomy is to learn how to do a tracing. How to organize the muscles and fibers, and represent effectively what is muscle fiber, tendon or bone. You'll probably do these in the future to understand how the musculature works in a certain pose, and having a clear representation would save a lot of time without trying to understand your own charts. So it's up to you. You can do it now, You can do some after every lesson...as long as you learn it's ok. Best Regards
Petra Brandström
I was drawing hands on a fast food bag on my way home from work, thinking "I need to practice anatomy". And as luck would have it, a few hours later I just stumbled over a Proko video, which took me here. Sometimes it all just works out. And sometimes someone really worked hard to help making things work out for other people. Thank you all for your hard work.
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