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Izak van Langevelde
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1d
added comment inYou Don't Need Talent.. I'll Prove It!
I'm afraid you're clueless when it comes to the notion of talent. Talent is not just some innate god-given ability, it is also the ability to learn. You show us you have been able to learn, to conclude you don't need talent? Yes, every Tom, Dick and Harriet can learn art, but some will learn so slowly they will never achieve a useful skill level in this life. Please leave telling there is no such thing as talent to third-rate schools who sell the idea that art skills can be bought. You are better than that!
Ron Kempke
3h
I think your idea of talent is as wrong as it can be. Andrew Loomis sums up talent very well on page 11 of Successful Drawing: "The truth is that we do not see the talent until the means of bringing it forth has been developed."
Your inability to learn is closely associated with your personal discipline commitment. How often do you practice, for how long, and for what specific purpose is your practice intended?
The digital age has spoiled anyone who thinks he/she can acquire the skill they want by shortcutting traditional practice methods. Stan spent 10 years of intensive, disciplined practice to arrive at his current skill level. I submit to you that your expectations far exceed what can be realistically expected, so stop feeling sorry for yourself and get to work!
Alain Rivest
1d
If you're unable or unwilling to learn, what are you doing here? In my opinion, talent = knowledge + skills = learning + practice. There's no magic talent you are born with.
Damon Harris
1d
talent is much like comprehension... many will struggle in this life
Anthony Hernandez
1d
He never says there is "no such thing as talent" he says you don't "need" it. Specifically he's talking about art talent, focusing on his previous bad artwork that displayed his lack of art talent.
In the video he specifically recommends leaning on the other talents you may have in order to get better at artwork. If you aren't great at learning, maybe you are organized and disciplined. Are there some people with no dedication and no learning skills that will never get good at art? Yes, but I've also seen people without arms become incredible artists by learning how to paint and draw with their mouth.
Maybe Stan's next video should be about how some people are too stupid and lazy to get good at art... just in time for the holidays.
Please leave the rude and pessimistic comments to the trolls. You are better than that!
Focus on concepts, instead of software.
Izak van Langevelde
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2mo
Same problem here,
I figured it out something wrong with the Chrome and now it works through going through incognito mode. WHY no clue but that solves it so I'm accept that.
Izak van Langevelde
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5mo
Decide for yourself what you want to learn from a master, and pick your original accordingly: is it composition, value, gesture, anatomy, colour or something else? Focus on that aspect, and do not waste your time on an exact replica, unless you're into forgery.
@azen
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9mo
Are you sure the minor axis always aligns with the cylinder axle and goes through the 3D center? I've heard that before and thought it was weird, but when I looked it up, it sounded like it was an approximation that's only completely true when the axis/axle intersects the "center of vision".
Since people generally put their focal point/center of vision directly on what they're looking at, in real life it will probably always seem true. Same for if you're specifically calling this out in a demonstration, you'll probably put the circle/ellipse near the center of the camera's view. But if you have a cylinder closer to the edge and tilted, I believe they can get misaligned, even without lensing effects.
I originally learned some of this from Marshall's 1994 perspective series. Near the end of one part, in what I think was a Q&A, he mentions the minor axis doesn't always go through the center either, but it's "so close". Another source was the "Vanishing Point: Perspective for Comics" book, which says making the minor axis parallel to the axle is usually a good enough approximation, and much easier. So it's not usually important, but maybe it is if you're practicing drawing a bunch of arbitrary cylinders at various angles. It confused me for a while.
It is a rule of thumb, an approximation, but is is not mathematically correct. As long as you stay away from extreme angles, you will get away with it.
Izak van Langevelde
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1yr
Look for curves that connect parts, Proko's demos on gesture are a good example.
Izak van Langevelde
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1yr
It helps to construct the eyes as balls, mounted into the head. This helps you to get her left eye right...
Could you please identify the six vanishing points? I can find only five...
Izak van Langevelde
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1yr
I like Peck's Atlas of Human Anatomy, Goldfinger's Human Anatomy for Artists, and Richer's Artistic Anatomy. There is a difference between anatomical reference, like the above, and books about drawing the human figure, like Bridgman and Vanderpoel. The former are what you need, while the latter may be useful.
