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@ciel
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4yr
added comment inHow to Draw Gesture – Step by Step
A few more pages of attempts at gesture. People here and elsewhere keep pointing out my lines are more contour lines, even though when I drew before in my mind I was thinking of each line I was drawing was there to convey the motion. Hopefully I did a bit of a better job this time, if not I can say my biggest issue is figuring out where the line between a line conveying gesture crosses into being a contour line. These were all 60 second sketches, although the first few didn’t quite get finished due to me trying to rethink how to simplify what I was doing before to still convey the motion.
Luigi Manese
4yr
Hi @ciel, I think these are much stronger than the drawings you had previously posted. What I can see more of in these drawings are that you seemed more focused on finding the big shapes and flow in the figure instead of treating each limb as a separate detail in the figure. I think that's the big takeaway, and something you should always keep in mind when doing gesture studies.
I really like how you simplified the arms and legs into big, flowing shapes. You also did a good job of translating the shape of the torso to create a nice flow throughout the figure.
Keep it up! And let me know if there is anything confusing that I said that I can clear up for you. You're definitely on the right track though
@ciel
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4yr
Asked for help
My attempts at gesture (1 minute each). I’ve done quite a few of these before, but I feel like I’m not quite getting something about how to do these. These are the most recent ones I’ve done in the last few days, but I’ve done more pages of like this than I can count and I feel like they shouldn’t still look this poor for as many as I’ve done.
Hi @ciel. I think you are not trying to get the flow of the pose. Or not as the main objetive in your practice. Let me explain.
What I see is countour lines. And countour lines. Mey be you are skiping the step of first get the flow of the pose just by observation. It doesn´t need to be to much. Is just take the time to observe instead of rush to the form that you see. First observe. Then draw. You will see it harder if you are rushing it, but give it an oppportunity and time.
As a recommendation. When drawing, try also to go calm in steps. First goes the flow line, the line of action know as, too. Then go for some more specific parts that help you to visualize the pose in your paper.
If you see you are lacking of time. Just give you more. Again, is better first get the flow by observing it instead of going directly to tha drawing.
Here I let you a video of Mattessi's force method at Proko. Really useful to loose the arm and observe better:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyuCq6VWVeA&pp=ugMICgJlcxABGAE%3D
Channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/drawingforce/featured
Hope it helps. Keep up the practice!
PS: if you have done what I described and you are trying to make it like more clean or complex in some way. Remember that is better to separate what is gestural drawing from anatomic drawing. They are always a little in the other. But there is gonna be a main one on each, in a very noticeable way.
What you should do is to learn how to draw basic shapes or parts of the body, so you can roughly draw head and other body parts. Although I said you can roughly learn how to draw head and other parts does NOT mean you should include details, still keep it simple showing the flow of movement. When drawing gesture identify centre lines because that help to make a person see where or how the body is turned or facing. It also shows the flow. I at times identify centre lines by identifying the centre of the chest and I do exactly the same when it comes on to the back by using the spinal cord. You could even make up landmarks to identify before hand where you intend on placing specific parts of the body.
I know at times maybe you wish you could just get it right already but all I say is keep practicing and you will be happy in the end👍🏽. Never give up!! Although I have not fully mastered gesture I will continue to give you critics based on my knowledge so far🥇🧨🥇
i should have made the last drawing better but I think you get my point.
I think I know exactly what Can help. I will first do my set-up to explain what you do. When I am finish I will get back to you as soon as possible 😁🙂. Don’t worry about it ok.
@ciel
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4yr
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Here’s my first few attempts with the bean. Did the first two pages yesterday, the other two today. Hope it’s not an issue that I posted these before my gestures. I just signed up here today even though I’ve done a few gestures before and just wanted to try out something new first.
Good work! I definitely see some good beans in terms of how then bend forward and back.
Though one big thing: Drawthrough!! Looking at your beans I get the feeling that you drew along the contours of the bean, trying to get proportion and orientation in space while you were doing it. This is inherently a lot of things to juggle (especially if it's your first time) and can easily be overwhelming.
Try like Stan did in the video and drawing two ovular masses to indicate rough size and position of the masses of the ribs and torso, then connecting them with lines and adding orientation (twists, leans, etc). Then draw the line of action last to finish it off. Drawing through is important because it takes those tons of things you need to juggle and simplifies them into steps; the establishing ovals give you position, size, proportion, and general establishment. Then drawing connecting lines between the ovals gives you more refinement of form, adding orientation details further defines that. Then the line of action is added on top to even further define orientation, though if you're doing it right, the line of action often won't even be needed.
I see you've also draw contour lines on two of your beans - this generally isn't necessary. The process of drawing the bean itself, and more importantly correct orientation details, will give the contour naturally.
It's also great to want to try something new! I feel the same way, doing the same gestures for months burned me out. But because Stan's courses are meant to build gradually on top of previous modules, it's important to follow the way he's set up his courses. 2 weeks on each module max, whether you feel comfortable with it or not, then move on. And keep it up!
