Hi @sharkhead, great job with these! The drawings are easier to read, you're finding the attachments and the crosscontours are better! Nice work! - Assuming these are digital, one thing that could make the drawings cleaner would be to switch to a different brush. You seem to be using a brush that mimics ink. Inking is hard, since the line is always black. I like to use a brush that allows me to draw both light and dark, mimicking a graphite or charcoal pencil. Your line quality is good for the most part, but in som places you have gaps, wobbles or scratchy lines. Using a tool that allows you to build up to a dark line might yield cleaner results. On the other hand practicing with ink could be good too, since it forces you to be more carful and decisive about your lines. Just wanted to make you aware of the possibility. - You did a good job with crosscontours in these. I did a picky paintover and fixed the crosscontours that I think might have been a little off. - In the 1st image, bottom right drawing, I think we're missing the levator scapulae. - In the 2nd image, bottom right drawing, what's happening under the jaw could have been clearer. I would recommend drawing the digastricus all the way to it's origin. Hope this helps :) Keep up the good work!

Hi @sharkhead, cool studies! -I did some paintovers: In the 2 top ones, the crosscontours on the sternomastoid don't seem right to me. One thing that helps me when I'm unsure of the angle of an object, is to imagine touching it. I don't know what reference you used but I think that if I were to lay my hand flat on top of the sternomastoid in the top right image, my hand would be going away from me --> we're looking up at the cylinder. In the top right one I think you got the hyoid bone a little small and a little too high up In the bottom right one I think the crosscontours on the sternomastoid should be different. However if the intention of the crosscontours were to show the major cylindrical form of the neck, then it's correct. Just wanted to let you know in case that wasn't your intention. - I would recommend working larger. The studies became a little too crammed with lines, so it was hard for me to pick out certain things. - I don't know how much time you spent on these, but they look like they were done pretty fast. I would recommend to slow down a little, to give yourself time to analyze and be clear, (the neck muscles aren't easy ). I like to lightly indicate all important stuff even if it's not visible. By important I mainly mean muscle attachments, like the scaleneus medius on the 1st rib, or levator scapula on the medial ridge of the scapula. A simple "trick" to give your drawings better read is the make outlines darker and the interior lines thinner. This applies on a smaller scale too, like individual muscle forms. You might have a very dark thick line for the silhouette of the figure and a lighter thinner line for the outlines of muscle forms (make sure you get the overlaps right), and even thinner and lighter lines, for muscle crosscontours and details. Hope this helps :) Keep up the good work!

Hard to see in photos but looks like you got the C curve for the top medial corner of the scapula down well. I think the W shape of the tail end of the trapezius could be a bit lower down the back. Good work and hope that helps

Hey, sharkhead Let me give you a little feedback and the previous one on this section because they have the same problem. To invent muscles you need to understand the its shape, form and function. While you are drawing the shape correctly and the sections, I do think your drawings are lacking a bit more of understanding of form and function. Because they are compressing and stretching in the right way. I would like you to re-watch the videos of the section but this time pay special attention to the 3-d form of the muscles (where the trapezium is thicker? where is thinner? what's the shape and thickness of the rhomboids? and when they are gonna appear more? How do you overlap the rhomboids and the trapezium) and their function (what do they do? when they gonna contract and when they are gonna extend? And in which way? How are they compressed and extended forms?) Then, I would like you to redo the first part of the exercises but this time in every assignment but really analyse what's happening in that particular pose. Ask yourself "What's this muscle doing? What is the movement is this model doing and in which way does that impact the muscles? How can I better represent this muscle? Do I make my cross contours more curvy to show the thickness or more flat?" Focus on the rhomboids and the trapezium. Forget the shoulder muscles, arms etc. Use gesture or simple forms to describe them. Your main concern right now is to understand the upper back muscles. Finally, come back to inventing. Hopefully by doing the previous exercise your comprehension of the muscles and your visual library will improve and you will do this part with more certainty. One final tip: stand up and repeat the pose you're trying to draw. Pay attention to which muscles are tense and which are relaxed. Normally the tense muscles will be more fuller and by doing the pose you'll get a more visceral comprehension of the gesture. Keep drawing and best regards.

Great job!