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Lai Yu-Hsuan
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4yr
added comment inLandmarks Assignment Example 1: Back
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I'v got some questions on this one!
1) What's the valleys below shoulder blades (blue lines)? Are they serratus anterior under lats? And why Proko chose to not draw them at all, even when they're very visible on the photo?
2) What's the protrusion between right lat and flank fat (red line)? Is it 10th rib? If so, is what we see a part of external oblique?
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4yr
1. Yes that's the serratus anterior
2. That's the volume of the rib cage.
I've got two ideas on how to make it easier to navigate this site:
1) Real-time search. Display the most relevant results under the search bar while the user is typing. It can introduce some extra loading on the server-side, but I think it's not that bad considering the number of lessons are rather manageable (even if Proko turns into the biggest art education site in the world, I doubt there will be more than a hundred thousand lessons).
2) Favorite lessons. Let users save a lesson into a "favorite" tab (probably accessible from the dashboard). Some lessons are more likely to be re-watched than others. I personally watched the gesture lesson for about 10 times.
Lai Yu-Hsuan
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5yr
Before talking about future courses... my biggest wish is Proko completing the leg muscle ebooks :)
Lai Yu-Hsuan
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5yr
I got some questions!
1) Do you think old masters' works more worth studying than modern ones?
2) How does one ensure he actually learned something from the masterpieces, instead of just mindlessly copying them?
3) Should a beginner focus more on studying reality (still life, models, photos) or masters' works?
@Lai Yu-Hsuan I've thought about question #1 a lot. Isn't it better to study from someone that is alive where you can potentially ask them questions or even take lessons from them? People that are alive are using the same tools available to us so we can relate to their process more don't you think? Or is that the point- a "old master work" is titled that way because it's relatable regardless of the time period or tools used?
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I tried to mannequinize some figures. I got the idea of using boxes and cylinders, but I found it extra difficult to connect those boxes together (like at deltoid, glutes, etc). I marked some parts that I specifically struggled with on the picture. Please share your critiques :)
Another question: Proko stated one should always draw the gesture first before the mannequin. Does it hold true in the case of, say that I'm using a reference, but drawing the pose at a different angle than the reference shows? I know how to rotate a box in perspective, but it seems unbelievably difficult to "rotate a gesture" in perspective.
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5yr
Lai, if you're not very familiar with anatomy yet, these connection points and overlaps will really seem difficult. I wouldn't know how to solve it with just a geometric mannequin, so I suppose the only way to get this clearer is to go deeper into anatomy studies. Until then, I'd say it's okay if you draw the mannequins with some "floating" parts as you did on the second one from top to bottom, since the main thing at this point is to get a simplified view of the forms. As long as these floating parts feel visually connected through a sense of gesture.
For your second question: I often like to think of gesture as the "pure energy" of the pose, and although it might be hard to think of rotating a gesture in perspective, there's always a mental sense of 3D space we can have when sketching gesture. So what I'd say is, when you're drawing a pose differently from your reference, just keep that sense of space as you imagine how the gesture should be at that new angle: think about how that "energy" goes up, down, sideways, forward and backward. Of course this kind of thinking takes practice.
Hope this helps!
When posting at discussion section one can mark the post as a "help request". But what does it actually mean? I think most people'd post for 1) clarification on the course content 2) critiques for their assignments. So almost every post would be, in some sense, a help request..?
Ya that's something that's been on my mind. Not sure how to prevent people from abusing it. The reason this is even a question is because we have some gamification features that are currently hidden (need to test with real data before launching). As you use the site, you get points for most actions and possibly awarded with badges. If people can manually mark things as done, some will abuse it to try to get more badges. Students who are actually here to study and keep track of progress shouldn't have a worse experience just because some might abuse it. So I think we'll be able to figure it out. Just have to give it some thought.
But if someone wants to cheat what prevents them? They can just quickly skip the videos right? Unless one has to submit assignments (and get peer-reviewed or instructor-reviewed) to mark a lesson completed? "Video watched" doesn't seem to be a good way to track progress anyway.
I'm a bit scared of giving away the obj files of our anatomy model. The time and money I've spent creating them is crazy... I think if I do decide to release them, they would be a separate purchase from the anatomy course, and with a few license options.
Yeah, that's understandable. I think many people would be willing to buy them if sold for a reasonable price.
"1. Regarding the lessons"
Not sure exactly what you mean by 3D models and ebooks are buried. If you select a course and click on the lessons tab, you'll see all the lessons related to any specific topic. For example see my image below of the biceps lessons.
On the old site all the 3D models are embedded in one single page, so one can load them with a single click. Now it's two clicks. The same goes with ebooks.
It doesn't personally bother me, but he's got a point.
Lai Yu-Hsuan
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5yr
Asked for help
(I asked this in Facebook group before but I found myself confused again...)
Now I understand the "centerline" isn't actually spine, and it's more like the plane change between back plane and side plane (if I understand it correctly?)
But what I don't get is that the other drawings in this video all show their twists with lines like either A or B. What makes this pose special?
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5yr
In the example above I exaggerated the twist a lot. Maybe too much. I considered how the neck is twisting in the opposite direction of the hips and I turned the rib cage quite a bit to make a continuous S curve from neck to hips.
Sometimes to understand the bean fully, it helps to understand the robo bean of the same pose.
