Neo
Neo
Finland
Fulltime furry artist, always excited to learn.
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Neo
I am also interested! I used the Skelly app after a long break again but it's really tough to hit the right bones on phone, otherwise the app is really good, nice and simple. Also putting this out here, I use linux only so would like to see it being compatible (browser based app would be the best approach). If you're making it windows only, please put it into Steam so it can be run via their emulator, it works really well. If that'll cost extra it's also okay.
Neo
Kinda like day and night, twilight only lasts for a short moment.
Neo
I know these might be all done now, but in case you'll do yet some more future episodes (also because I love to listen to these over and over), here's a topic I'd be interested in hearing you two talk about: Preservation of works and materials when it comes to the digital medium. Basic stuff like backups and local copies aside, there's a lot of uncertainty when it comes to digital artwork. Some of our resources, such as these episodes or other lessons are "out of our control" and might vanish one day, same goes to reference materials that are hosted elsewhere, even google may not exist forever. Another thing is that the file formats, tools and platforms may one day become obsolete and not run on anything anymore, things like games we have contributed our skills to might never run again in the future (Flash is a good past example of this). A lot of artists don't really think about this at all and many things we do thesedays there is no consideration to the future, I think people should care more. Honestly physical resources like books are still the best.
Neo
Hey, a question regarding speech bubbles and I suppose a request to include in a future lesson: How do you tackle making the bubbles the right size for the text that is to go inside them. Do you write a scribble of the text before sketching the bubble or just build intuition for it? How do you keep bubble sizes consistent, so that if the same size of text is used (mostly), the padding around the text doesn't vary a distracting amount.
Alina Agarkova
Yes, you do find the spot for bubbles on the design/layout stage and actually sketch out the dialogue before inking. But you've probably figured it all out in the last 8 month the course mentor has been ignoring you??? Is that how it works here on Proko? Glad I saw you question (and the lack of answer for it) before buying the course, thank you!
Neo
The writer & artist bit just made me think why can't creatives collaborate more together? Surely there are many artists (alike myself) who would absolutely love to illustrate a book or album cover, for lesser pay or even just free because collaborating with other creatives simply feels amazing on it's own. I get it that styles don't always match preferences, but surely finding someone close enough or versatile enough would still be a more enriching experience than just generating a picture. Also what happened to the initial promise of AI pictures that nobody may legally use or claim copyright over the generated images because they were trained with copyrighted material randomly found online. That was a pretty remarkable part in AI generated stuff in 2020 and now it's just forgotten about? Additionally my thoughts on AI in the art world is that it will most likely degenerate the overall skill in art. Less people will desire to learn to draw because you can just use AI for good enough pictures. Most people don't start to draw because they want to master the craft, they do it because they want to draw -a thing-, which is now achievable without. Wanting to master something usually comes after a while because you realize how fun the craft is, but less people will now reach that potential realization. Also AI will eventually, unavoidably start to teach itself with other AI generated pictures which leads to it becoming samey. Perhaps a lot of art will end up in museums behind paywalls again and the craft will only be available to rich people.
Neo
Not entirely sure which section to post this into. This is my second round going through the (free version) of the anatomy course. The course is excellent btw, I've never come across anything this focused and informative. The first time I did the assignments for each lesson (I went through with them together with some friends on telegram and irl, this was a couple years ago). This round I think I need to focus a bit more "on the whole" so I've invented my own assignments. My personal challenges has been to remember the exact insertions and overlapping order & interactions of different muscles. I think it will help me remember better to focus how everything sits together in proportion (develop my own visual cues to aid memory). My plan is to first focus on carefully laying out where the muscles are together and memorize it, do several model interpretations (like the first one below) and invent muscles on skelly (I got the app). Then move to simplifying the structure so it's easier to sketch quickly and do more gestural / simple muscle form studies off model photos. And hopefully later get the premium course when I can afford it and go through all the original assignments again to refine in the details. Feedback is welcome and requested, especially regarding the side views, accuracy & proportions! In this particular study my question is what is that small bump on the back (highlighted green)? I think it's a rib surrounded by unevenness of erector spinae, but it's also surround by something from the other side of it?
Neo
3yr
The follow ups.
@cmmorgan60
Good Morning Dorian - I believe you mentioned a PDF file that can be downloaded.. could you please point me to location of that file?
Neo
3yr
Writing this reply so any new people can see it. Despite the other replies here I spent a good 10 minutes trying to figure out where the PDF was, because it looks like it's another video in the playlist. Just a tiny book symbol instead of a play button. Feeling silly but mystery solved!
Neo
Neo
4yr
Introduction I'm Neo from Finland, I've been passionate about drawing and art for as far as I remember being conscious, both traditional and digital. I've been very fortunate that my parents introduced me to digital tools and a local art school for kids as early as '98 to learn all about the tools. Since 2009 I've been doing commissions online and a few local gigs, in 2015 I created my own company to work full time as an independent artist. However, throughout most of my life I've been frustrated with the lack of resources for fundamentals and how to actually draw the literal subjects, none of the schools, courses or books I had taken in real life ever provided any insight - it often felt like I learned much more from other subjects in school to improve my work (physics, biology, psychology etc.) It must've been as late as 2017 when I finally met people who were able to point me to books and online resources that have been helpful. I'm excited to finally be on the correct path to mastering my craft. In exchange I can provide many insights to the tools, know a good deal about printing techniques and maybe a little about managing a business with international clients. Though I'm sure I still have a lot to learn about those subjects as well.
Neo
Pardon if this is something that was already discussed in newer episodes, I'm going through each in order and I'm sure by the end of everything I would've forgotten about the things I thought about on the way so here goes: What if the artist of bad actions is from the present day? I feel this is much more complex than people from the past because even just mentioning their name is potentially boosting their career and enabling them to do more harm. In the past few years this discussion has been hot, many skilled and popular artists have turned out to be terrible people and have shown no signs of remorse or will to better themselves. Emphasis on how they handled the aftermath, because we all make mistakes or even do terrible things, but I'd like to think most people feel terrible about it and want to improve themselves. So focusing on the cases that have made it clear that they are irredeemable people for now. My personal take on this is that it's still possible, but it must be done very carefully to avoid further boosting their success. Knowing how internet works is cruical and it may be impossible to take into account everything. With everything being about views now, even clicking the links to see the content to learn from will boost them. So do following on social media because the platforms highlight you're following someone and advertise it to more people. And of course the obvious is to not purchase any of their paid content. That being said, piracy may sometimes be the ethical solution in this kind of cases. I do also believe that the actual craft is better learned from past artists and teachers of today who are good people, there is no shortage. But these present day bad artists may still have something to offer in how they became successful on the modern platforms, perhaps even give a feeling of relief to learn that their success is probably not because they are a terrible person. It's best to not get too invested though, for the sake of your own sanity.
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