Michael Giff
Michael Giff
Baltimore
"Have I not suffered enough?"
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Michael Giff
Oh dear... I'm kind of intimidated by this one and have not done a whole lot of drawing. Can anyone explain how these are being set up? Or should I not worry about it at my level and just sketch and label... despite them being an abomination to accuracy and proportion?
Lin
4d
For the hexagon, I kinda deconstructed what Marshall did and drew a box around the form using the edges of the hexagon to discover the 3 axes which give you the box. Then I divided the planes of the box with diagonals to find the halfway point for the hexagon, and finally just connected them. I found the other side by using the parallel axis lines along a particular axis. I hope this makes some sense, I tried but it’s a lot of lines so I apologize if it’s confusing. It’s simpler than it looks to try, much harder to get perfect (intuiting the VPs), but not a hard system in itself, just lots of lines. Basically sussing out the 3 axes and diagonals then a lot of connect the dots. So you were right to look for VPs, we just don’t need to find them for the slanted xz lines because discovering the centre point with the diagonals method give us the result quicker. The diagonal method is a reliable way to get halves or thirds or more in perspective where halves for example get smaller further back and don’t look like exact halves. I use the same methods for the shape that shall not be named, I try to find the axes in common with a box, and start there. For the second image in your post, that will come up when we begin to do accurate proportions I think so I wouldn’t worry about that yet. Rn I’m just estimating some parts from the diagonals and axes method above.
Michael Giff
Template time! I originally was thinking how I could retro fit it into making a robot... and then quickly reminded myself to keep it simple, so here's a kind of a blocky outline of what could one day be a robot... maybe.
Michael Giff
@Dermot My last submission for this assignment... and I decided to butcher your project.... my sincerest apologizes. Really lost on how to get the thickness of the brackets and how to get it to sit on the ledge. All and all though, I'm glad I tried it out. The cubed robot was a tad too easy, your example was a tad too hard. Balance has been restored!!
Michael Giff
Very cool and quite inspirational for me. I bought David K. Rubins anatomy book... years ago at this point with the intention of tracing over comic book art and then attempting to draw in the proper anatomy of the muscles as if I had X-ray vision... but it just seems so daunting every time I sit down to do it. Nice to see someone with the discipline to carry through with things XD. Do you trouble yourself with learning the names? Or is it good enough to just be able to identify the different shapes and forms?
Michael Giff
Questions Galore: 1: Am I right in saying that there is no foreshortening in isometric views? 2: If that is true can I not measure out the plan and use those metrics for all vertical and angled lines to create said view? I'm trying to convert this example into an isometric view. I measured ( At least I thought I did) all of the lines on the plan and was hoping to be able to easily put them down but I'm having a terrible time trying to cut in under the platform. Am I fundamentally misunderstanding what I'm doing? Or by converting something made with 2 vanishing points and trying to convert it to an Isometric view I have introduces impossibilities? Based on these measurements will I not be able to see the cut out portion of the platform? (Yes the irony of me counting in millimeters after proudly announcing "I'll never count in millimeters again," in the previous video is not lost on me... what can I say I've been doing it for years and it has served me very, very poorly.. so it's on brand for me.) Big thanks for any help or insights.
Michael Giff
Some clean- up with Tracing Paper and another try from elsewhere on the internet. Think I'll try to copy the other examples in the video before attempting making my own forms with the templates. (Thank you, for uploading those! I tend to get in trouble when left to my own devices.)
@luvbuzz
took a lot more concentration then I initially thought .
Michael Giff
Those look great! Did you free hand the curves?
Michael Giff
Any tips on how to save this? I'm awful at drawing curves (well drawing in general but particularly with curves) We got the bumper that just protrudes from top view by a hair, followed by another curve for the roof and yet another one as a a raised bevel. I don't know how to draw that without it looking like... well a mess. (Yes, I know. From me? Shocking!!)
Michael Giff
Yikes, 2 days and 4, 90 minute sessions latter... should of listen to Marshall and drawn the bloody box of tissues XD. Not sure if I left myself enough room to finish the roof or how I'm going the get these curves to work... maybe I should just destroy the reference and claim that's it's a square bus.. Yes! A short, square bus! Brilliant!
Michael Giff
Ticks on paper is going to be my new MVP. I'll never count in millimeters again!!
Michael Giff
First of hopefully many. My goal is to post one of these per day until the next lesson drops. Kind of got messed up with the side profile and found it tricky to find a spot where my eye level was truly "side" still kind of ended up with kind of a 3/4s view.
Michael Giff
Did this on a sketch book in my lap so my typical shaky inaccurate lines are a bit more shaky and inaccurate :P Hope to be in front of the drafting table tomorrow.
Michael Giff
Let's just say the, "make it beautiful," stage of my art making life is a very, very long way away XD.....T_T I'll try to fill a page up a day this week as I work through the the Ortho project.
Michael Giff
Michael Giff
These are a few days old, need to try to implement the instruction from the next video.
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