Dermot
Dermot
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Dermot
Great Video thanks Oh, I thought this was Marshall's Perspective Course. Marshalls Perspective on Perspective as mentioned in The Draftsmen? :(
Ash
2d
Hey Dermot! Yes, this is indeed the Perspective course mentioned in the Draftsmen podcast.
Dermot
Quote from the video: "Sketch Examples" Are you refering to the example sketches you scroll through during the video? That's what I've been doing or it that considered copying. Looking down, lines go up Looking up, lines go down I assume the main goal of the exercise is to automate the thinking to muscle memory by repetition using the examples in the video.
Marshall Vandruff
Any examples Dermot. Look at all the stuff here...
Dermot
These demos are great. When drawing the grids for these demos, how do you determine the line spacing from the VP's for the grids? Is there an assignment to follow the demos?
Marshall Vandruff
The line spacing is up to you. I'm sure you don't want a hundred reminders, nor only nine. You want enough reminders to let you know which way to go with a line. And there is no official assignment. I will give feedback soon to those who post what they're doing to apply this. Draw things you want to know so well you can draw their forms from imagination!
Dermot
Thanks for the invented 3d demo drawing from orthos views.
@romero505
Hey guys, this is a practice I did a while back. I used seven values, including the white of the paper. However, I can't create that depth effect or the fidelity of the image without it looking too saturated or too dull. Should I use charcoal, or is it just my lack of skill with values? I'm thinking about doing a portrait, but I don't want it to still look like a drawing. You know what I mean? I'd like to achieve a depth effect and a shape that's fairly faithful to the reference image. I hope someone can help me. It's worth noting that I blurred the values. Yes, I know it's cheating a bit. Blessings to your families and to you.
Dermot
I look forward to these animations, brilliant Marshall, thanks. :)
Dermot
Marshall, thanks for the critique. I did print off all 12 box grids and then quickly realised I was in a spiders web of lines, without a clear understanding of the grids and their construction with respect to VP's and Horizon lines. I look forward to the lessons ahead that you mention.
Marshall Vandruff
Working on them now so that you will both understand and, like a rock guitarist, choose your distortions.
Dermot
Amazing explanation and animation. Your laugh was somewhat disturbing, throughout, though! Was Stan hurt during the stunts, in making this animation? I was surprised you put water in the pool! Thanks :)
Marshall Vandruff
Yeah, I got pretty sadistic there, but Stan seems to be more okay with it than getting sung to.
Dermot
Marshall thanks for sharing the Kim Jung Gi interview on Boxes with us. He proved you don't always need to think outside the box to be a master. I believe he was unique in his ability to manipulate and imagine all his artwork detail in the manner he did. To think it all started with boxes.
Dermot
I've been struggling with the grids. I focused on the box grids as I found they seemed to distort the boxes. I tried to use the grids to draw the 9 Basic Positions but all went to mush so I used the excellent image shown during the Tipped Arrows Critique as a reference. I drew the nine boxes out of perspective, and then altered them into perspective. There was a lot of erasing going on but I wonder if this can be drawn on a grid and which of the 12 grids would it be any other suggestions would be great, my freehand drawing is a touch messy, I'd like to understand how to make it look better proportion wise. It reminded me to
Lin
1mo
I think what’s missing is the cone of vision. Marshall hasn’t taught us yet. There is a small 60 degree cone of vision between vanishing points in the picture plane where things don’t look distorted. As soon as you draw outside of that, they begin to distort. If you’re super curious you can check out Scott Robertson’s book on perspective but I have to warn you it is heavy XD
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