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Michael Burge
Michael Burge
Australia
IT Trainer and Tech who loves to draw.
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Michael Burge
Hi all. I am back to this course after a bit of break drawing other things. I am finding I am a bit rusty with mannequinization. Was hoping someone could give me some pointers and areas I can focus on as I head into the final exercise video of this section. The first one is me trying it on my own and the second is following along with the video. I should ready try again on my own but I often run out of steam by the end. Thanks all.
Jesse W.
3yr
Looking good to me: forms feel solid and I can read the pose! Are you starting with some gesture or jumping straight to detailing forms? Like laying in big forms or a line of action with gestural CSI marks, seeking basic shapes that “ring true to the pose”? I found doing that first helps make for a good foundation to build up organic and expressive manikin forms. Even in specific exercises like this one, I was taught to start with some gesture to get a free, graceful and organic flow into the figure. Stan weaves this idea into a lot of his lessons as well. Has helped my figures look less stiff and more lively.
Katey Jensma
Hi @Michael Burge , please post your assignments in the original lesson instead of the assignment examples. All comments posted in the lesson are considered Help Requests.
Michael Burge
Thanks Katey. I actually tired that this morning so glad to have that confirmed. Just got a little confused as other posts in those videos comments have the asking for help tag.
Michael Burge
Hi All, I have gone through all of the examples videos (except foreshortening) and here are my exercises. I think I am finally starting to get the idea but I still have problems with knowing which plane should be visible for the ribcage. The top plane or the bottom plane? Thanks in advance.
Michael Burge
Hi There does not seem to be any way to ask for help unless you are just flagging it in your profile or in the community posts. If you select to post it to a specific course video comments section it disappears. Correct me if I am wrong but unless I ask for help then no one will know that I have added an image requesting some feedback? Please see the images attached. I appreciate everyone in the community who takes the time to give feedback and I don't want to sound impatient. I just want to make sure I am doing the right thing to get feedback for my posts in the courses. Thanks
Michael Burge
Here is my last lot for the twist robo bean. I am starting to see improvement but still having problems with what plane should be visible for the torso. The top or the bottom. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
@missinglee
Hey Michael. I can imagine 8 months down the track you might not have this problem anymore. But in case others do, I have the same problem - to try and solve this I've been looking for the 10th ribs on the front (red) and then try to imagine where the equivalent would be on the back (blue). I use these four points to draw a rectangle in perspective and that helps me figure it out. The other thing that's helpful is to stand up and try and do the pose yourself and notice whether you are leaning forward (show top plane of shoulders) or backward (bottom plane near the guts)
Michael Burge
Here are some of the tilt robo-bean. Still can't figure out which plane should be showing. Top or Bottom.
Dylan Gabriel
Hey, these look like a good start. I drew on top of my reference to learn the planes. Basically just put a dot at each landmark and then draw the lines connecting them. The more you do the more obvious it will become to know what you are looking at.
Michael Burge
Hi all, Here are the last few robo-beans from this video. Like always I try myself, then copy and finally try again by myself. I think I am getting better but I still have issues in knowing which plane is visible the bottom or the top. Any tricks or suggestions about this. Also any other suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Michael Burge
Can't wait for this to start and both Monsters and shapecarving are new to me. Just a quick questions though do you think this would help with any kind of character designs not just monsters? I am playing around with some animal designs and looking at ways to add personality to the drawings. Still super keen to get into this though.
Scott Flanders
Hey man. The approach I use here in the course is the way I do it every time I sit down to solve any design problem. Creatures, characters, enemies, weapons, art direction, graphic design, illustration, sculptures, etc. It will definitely be useful for your character art, and it's very accessible as well. I hope you enjoy it :)
Gabriel Kahn
I would say, you should separate them a bit. For me, if I do practice my goal is to draw as much as possible and just fill in pages. I believe @Stan Prokopenko and @Marshall Vandruff talked about this in the Draftsmen Podcast, where two groups of students were tasked to create the best piece of pottery they could produce. One of the groups had to work on one single piece of pottery, while the other ones had to create several. In the end, the team which has created several pieces of pottery ended up winning the competition, because they simply had more experience. Also, it gives you a sense of accomplishment if you finish something you are working on. If you only do 30-hour illustrations you will quickly find yourself unmotivated, because you won't feel like you are improving. The 'Do it right' approach should be used when you are *working*. If you have an important personal project, or you have a commission to do always strive for creating the best thing you can because these are going to be your most important works. I hope I could help! Have fun on your art journey! :)
Michael Burge
Just wanted to say this is a great bit of advice and something I have been striving for. Always good to have a reminder 😊
Michael Burge
Hey Andy, I hear you, I get days like that too where no matter what I do the lines just don't do what I want them to do. The best thing I have found recently is to do a few minutes of warmup lines on a page. A whole bunch of S C and I marks just to loosen up before a session. Only take 2 minutes and it makes a difference in the confidence of my lines. Here are 2 example pages. Hope that helps. Keep it up you are doing great.
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