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Brandon
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I didn't notice the dude is in an almost 4-head proportion... I first try to understand the shape and form in a geometric phrase then apply my anatomy knowledge to this dude. I refined some features to better fit with the character that I want this dude to have. 3/4 view it seems like ok, but not so sure. Sorry for spending a long time on it, I try to have a fresh eye on it every week.
Brandon
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3d
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Breast combined with pec muscle is slightly confusing. The shape of it is tear shape. i kind of get it but I am not sure where it originated. I traced on the 1 st pic to show what I am trying to say. Coz my traced breast is nowhere close to a tear shape... based on the anatomy photos I searched online. Should I include the upper pec to have a tear shape? or is there something that I am missing from the videos?
2nd pic is my submission before watching Stan's critiques and demo. it seems like its a bit stiff? I try to move my arm in a circular motion to remain some gesture to the breast, but once I press harder on the paper for a darker line, things just don't work as I intended...
Brandon
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3d
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Pec, I love pec...I mean drawing them.
1. my first attempt. for inventing muscle. I sketched them in my sketchbook to practice more about the rib cage and the scapula. just to understand the form better.
Quite honest, I am not so sure how thick the bottom of the pec should be and where the muscle fibers flow to.
2. I found 2 poses being the most difficult and redrew them after the demo and critique.
it seems like the fibers is quite gestural if u know the insertion and origin? I guess?
3. I got confused about the abdominal section of the pec, where does it originate on the surface?
Brandon
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3d
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The scapula is the most difficult one... all those bumps from the back and wrapping around the ribcage. I need to go back to do some muscle tracing actually to know whats going on. And the movement of it is another tricky part, kind of gliding everywhere. Mostly I am just guessing, and see some 3d movement videos to get a sense of it. Any tips for the movement part, coz I still cannot draw them from imagination...
This is really cool! I like your notes about this character. You have a lot of interesting things going on in the front view drawing that you could emphasize in the side view to improve your design.
Firstly, you may want to use a ruler turn arounds. There are some adjustments you'll have to make for perspective but having a trustworthy guide will help you out a lot while making those kinds of decisions. I moved around some of your guys features to match the guidelines that I drew that and that alone helped a bit with the likeness.
Secondly, your side view guy's anatomy is very straight up-and-down. I think that concept works with the personality of the character but it may not make for the most interesting drawing. What I like in your original drawing is the wide chest and the tiny legs, so I rotated his ribcage back a bit to put emphasis on his big barrel chest, making the proportions of his top half even larger in comparison to his bottom half. Think about things that you find interesting about this character and his personality and how you can communicate that to the viewer.
The 3/4th view will be the most difficult, but once you have a front and side view that you are happy with, it becomes a matter of justifying the two.
Thank you very much. @Melanie Scearce I was digesting your advice yesterday and tried to redo it today. I made some adjustments for the side view and try to imagine whats the rib cage like for this dude. When I am doing it, I actually have someone that I was thinking about, and I try to feel the personality/the vibe of the person. I would say it is closer to what I imagined. Now it s the 3/4 view left to tackle. I will post it when I am done with all the refinement.
Just a weird thing that I notice: slightly adjusting just 1 line can actually turn the personality of the character into something else which makes me appreciate the whole character design thing more.
once again thx a lot Melanie, you are always kind and helpful in my artistic journey
After the recent project in the perspective course, I decided to start a challenge in choosing 14 different objects to draw in different angles. On 9th day of the challenge, I got sick and dizzy, kind of turned into creative mode, doddles and scribbles and stopped the challenge.
The image below is a character that I created, I am satisfied with the front of it, but for the 3/4 view and the side view, the character seems like a different person, and I don't know what went wrong....
Brandon
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20d
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I decided to continue my progress in the Marvel course (at least I know what Ryan is saying in the penciling section), but my anatomy knowledge is still really shallow, try to take it more seriously this time after some mileage in the perspective course and the basic course.
1st -2nd pic = my assignment and some ribcage in different angle
3rd = drawing along the video is placing
4th = after the critique video, did some tracing to know which ribs = which point i m drawing for the rib cage, coz I tried to straighten the organic curves that the ribcage has.
5th = after the how to draw ... video, decided to follow along and invent some angle
Question:
1. I am not that comfortable with the top down view(the muscular dude in the 4th pic) of the ribcage, especially on how the thoracic arch shape changes.
2. The thickness of the muscle also confused me when I was doing the 4th pic. I am simply just guessing it and see how Stan did it in the critique.
3. I noticed some artists simply draw a circle instead of the egg shape for the rib cage,
I guess thats a stylized choice. e.g. cartoon?
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19d
All of these look awesome. Drawing the ribcage in perspective is tricky but you got it. I’m not sure you would see the underside of the ribs in that one pose on the 4th image.
I took a screenshot from Proko’s Skele app to show an example of the ribs at that angle.
Brandon
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29d
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Lvl1 Submission 2.
After digesting some advice from Rachel, kind of know what I am doing when I try to break walls from simply following references. But quite honestly, I don't how the lighting of the head is or works, so if some of these look like nonsense, please forgive me. I am trying to connect the rhythm of the shadow(don't know if that's a thing, coz lines have rhythm, I guess shadow also has?)
Try to keep the principle of interesting shape in mind. Don't know if thats a success or not, definitely a fun project though
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29d
I really really like what you did with these. Top right one has some super cool shape design.
Brandon
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1mo
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Day 8-9: Rhinos
Start moving to the territory of organic forms. Rhinos are just cool animals to draw.
I know that Marshall mentioned the " X " in a plane can be useful to keep track of proportion, but I am still not sure how that works after a number of attempts.
Simplifying the organic object into 4 blobs makes my life easier in drawing it from different perspectives.
Question:
How do you guys understand the 3d form of subjects (or draw cross contours)? Quite honest, I found it easier to understand the subject if I could see things in real life.
I think you've got a solid study of the rhino—it’s definitely a challenging subject to draw. For me, adding 3D contours really helped to start thinking more in 3D. It makes it easier to visualize where the form bends and twists.
If you search for simple organic forms (e.g. Pinterest), you’ll find something like a blob—similar to the image I added below. Something clicked for me when I started drawing similar blobs. It felt like I was transitioning from creating flat 2D shapes with outlines to something that felt more like believable, three-dimensional volumes.
Maybe Sketchfab or other 3D model websites could serve as a middle ground between real-life drawing and studying from photos.
https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/rhino-2892f1c1f6e84fde919aa2d73c6595c9
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X TRICK:
For me, it was helpful to think about it without distortion, just as a simple rectangle. If you connect all the corners, it becomes obvious that the "X" lies in the middle of the rectangle. This way, you can find the center of the shape by drawing the horizontal and vertical lines.
I use the "X" trick to draw things that are equally spaced, like streetlamps in a long straight row or windows. I start with a square and draw the same "X" as before. If you want to expand the spacing to the sides, you can imagine a larger "X" to find the extended corners. Where the bigger diagonals intersect with the top and bottom, the same unit is reached in perspective.
Maybe this helps?
Brandon
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1mo
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lvl1 first try:
Yup it s difficult, I think my focus is just on the expression. Try to come up with different ways to emphasize on the face,
Not sure if I have gone too far or not. Would love to see other works as inspiration. Kind of feel like being thrown into an ocean.
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1mo
These are awesome! If you want to take them even further, you could try some different shapes to frame the face in different ways.
