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Aleksandra Krupskaya
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4yr
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Hello!
I've tried the assignment, doing 3 poses from a pose website.
I found that not every pose is good for this exercise - seems like a lot of poses can just barely be exaggerated further, and also, it's hard to make an exagerrated pose not look stiff.
I'll be grateful for any critique, I'm trying to figure out what to focus on, what to do to improve (in partivular, make the poses less stiff and more realistic)
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4yr
This is a hard exercise and takes a lot of time to do and you did it very well with the step by step. It is true if the pose you are starting with is already an exaggerated pose for the body to be in it would be difficult to push it further. You did the mannequinization well. I think the stiffness comes from the initial gesture sketch and still leaving in too much symmetry in the forms like the legs. Symmetry kills the flow and gesture feel causing a pose to be stiff. Look to create those asymmetrical areas in the flow of the limbs and noticing the asymmetry of the muscles. Here is a gif from Proko showing how to push the asymmetry then draw in the anatomy on top keeping the flow of the limbs in place. Again great work!
Joey Vandemaele
4yr
Hi there, the reason you are having a hard time exaggerating a pose is because when you are focusing on the gesture you are forgetting the form and vice versa, i recommend studying bridgman, it would help if you have knowledge of anatomy before you study him but its not 100% necessary, if you have proko's anatomy course you can just use the 3d models to figure out the muscle shapes with the Bridgman drawings, or just find some 3D models online on the sketchfab website, but if you want a detailed guide on anatomy... Stan's course is probably one of the best ones to get.
i drew one of your models to show you what i mean with Bridgman's results.
Draw one of Bridgman's drawing, and then close the book and try to draw it yourself without looking, then open the book and compare your work with his and correct it, if you made to many mistakes then retry it after u noted your mistakes.
Hope this helps, good luck ;)
PS: Use contraposto, make sure the pelvis box and rib cage box are not symmetrical, it makes for interesting poses
Jahsee Mullings
4yr
The poses really look exaggerated than the normal one. I like it keep up the good work 🥇🧨🥇
Hi all!
I'll be grateful for critique.
I attempt the poses before watching the examples, and try to figure out the mannequinazation for myself first.
I think the limited knowledge of anatomy holds me back: in examples, Stan often draws muscles of the torso and I always feel a bit lost when he does that since witholut knowledge about muscles it's really hard to identify and simplify them. But maybe I'm missing something>
Also I'd be grateful for assessment of my proportions - I know sometimes it's hard to see proportional flaws in your own drawings.
And any advice is very welcome ;)
Overall, You are in the right track. I Especially like the 3rd drawing on the first row, and i think you nailed it in terms of the perception of 3d form and proper shapes you used.
if you're having trouble with anatomy i suggest you revisit prokos video on landmarks and make notes and drawings on musculature. Then have these notes/drawings right beside you when you're making mannequinzation sketches. this method has really helped me a lot and i highly recommend it
Here are my animals.
I think I have a problem that's mentioned in a different critique: I see curves and not planes. I thought about it after the second animal (the pig), and tried to pay more attention to simple geometric forms in the next 3 sketches.
I'll be grateful for any feedback, thank you in advance!
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This exercise was fun.
I wonder why boxes and cylinders are relatively easy, but once it comes to people and animals, it's a leap and it's much more difficult to use simple forms.
I tried to do boxy forms and cylinder-like forms, not just proper boxes and cylinders, thinking it might help with animals later.
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4yr
Hi Aleksandra! Good studies. Some of the ellipses on the cylinders look a bit off-centered or unsteady. Not all just a few. Ellipses are tough to do. I find it helpful to draw them using the rotation of my shoulder vs my wrist. It just takes time for the dexterity to come. Everything else looks solid! You may experiment in drawing lines darker the closer they are to the viewer and lighter when a line goes off into the background. That will add depth of field or a better 3d effect. Again great job here!
Hello! My opinion is that understanding how to draw the basic volumes is paramount. My feedback: I can see that you are drawing the volumes as if they occupy your whole field of view (fast convergence). And, a leg or head is not going to occupy that much in a structure, so, you should practice slower convergences, almost paraline. Hope it helps!
nice effort, and yes people and animals are harder I think it has something to do with our brains, hard to make them 'see' differently
Very nice. I see in a lot of places where you are drawing through the form on your cylindrical forms, which is a good habit to be in. I don't see you applying the same approach to your boxes, but it can help.
On a few of your cylinders, (#20 for example) when you have good amount of convergence, that's an indication that the form is turning and you'll want to open up your ellipses just a little bit more to sell the form.
As for why it's harder for humans and animals, well, it's the other considerations of pose, and proportion. Even knowing how to break up the organic forms into simple forms benefits from a little anatomy knowledge.
Still, it's an understanding of form that will underpin everything, and you're on your way with these. Good job.
I have drawn all the poses from the video (before watching the examples - I tried to spot my mistakes/things I did differently and work on them on the next poses). I'll be very grateful for any feedback and advice.
It seems that line quality is a big issue for me - I'm trying to work on it, and I would love any kind of advice on this as well.
Thank you in advance!
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4yr
Hi @Aleksandra Krupskaya Nice work! It's great to hear that you try yourself first, then check Stan´s and use what you learn in the next. You´ll benefit from it :)
I´ll try to look for things to help you further:
STRUCTURE
I find that in some parts of your drawings, the structure isn´t very clear. I can tell that you're aware of structure, because in many places it is correct, like the boxy form of the pelvis you indicated in #4. What you want now is to get fluent in drawing simple forms so that you always get them accurate with ease.
I suggest you watch the third part of the course again https://www.proko.com/course-lesson/structure-basics-making-things-look-3d/assignments
Did you do the exercises he suggested? They are really important. Practice many pages of boxes, practice many pages of cylinders, making sure they're accurate and submit for critique.
When you come back to the mannequins, you'll see great Improvement.
LINE QUALITY
I understand your concern. I have some ideas on how you could improve on it.
- Learn to draw with your whole arm. I suppose you´ve watch this video https://www.proko.com/course-lesson/how-to-hold-and-control-your-pencil/assignments
If you haven´t I really recommend watching it and doing the exercises regularly.
- Use fewer lines. In your drawings you seem to be going over the same line multiple times, making it messier. To develop new habits, revisit the gesture quicksketch exercise and don't allow yourself to erase or redraw lines. Don´t worry if things turn out wrong in a drawing, enjoy your mistakes and move on to the next pose. The goal is to develop a habit of clean line. accuracy will come after that. Gesture quicksketches take little time and are in that sense forgiving, and fun :)
Hope this helps :)
PS: Practicing drawing the simple forms from part 3 is also a great opportunity to practice line quality
