Figure Drawing Shading Critique
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Peter Tinkler
This one's in charcoal, which gives much deeper blacks than the graphite. I do very much enjoy working on toned paper, as the highlights really 'jump' off the page. I think the back is a little bit more developed this time. Hoping to start another tomorrow, but a male figure this time.
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Today I have a critique for the Shading lesson and generally summing up all the figure lessons. Amit Shirole submitted two drawings. He did such a great job with this exercise, I think he's a good example for everyone else and maybe an inspiration to do the same thing

So, Amit emailed me and said:

Hello sir, I’m following your videos and this video was extraordinary! Here I’m sending you my work sir… Please guide me with your valuable suggestion. Thank u sir!!!

Ok, I will do my best.

First of all, you did a fantastic job with the study of my drawing and then doing one of your own in the same style. I applaud you for such a great effort. It looks to me like you understood most of the points from the shading lesson. And the best thing is that you actually did it. You did exactly what you're supposed to do. Watch the lessons, study from the lessons, and practice what you learned from the lessons. It's easy to just binge watch all the videos. But it's those people that actually go and practice that will make the biggest improvements. So, good job man!

Now, if you don't mind, and since you asked, I'll give you few suggestions on how I think you can improve.

First Drawing

figure drawing yoni finished
amit 3
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On the first drawing you missed the gesture. Draw a plumb line from the right side of his head down to his foot. You’ll see that in the photo and in my drawing the line aligns with the left side of his right foot. On your drawing it's farther to the right. This causes him to look like he’s balancing on his right leg. But, he’s actually leaning on his left knee. The weight is distributed evenly between the left and right side. Maybe you could review my video on Balance.

You seem to be using too many sharp edges to separate the muscles masses. It can be good to exaggerate that in some areas, but you’re doing it too much. You have the whole scapula region outlined. The trapezius is outlined. And the same thing on the other side. Notice how in my drawing I have areas where I show a sharp edge with a line, but then I fade the line and the edge becomes more vague. It's softer and it provides a variation throughout the edges, that's just a more appealing design. When you've indicated the beginning of the edge and the end, the viewers will connect the dots on their own. You don't have to outline the whole thing. See how here you have outline, outline, outline. On mine, those areas are open.

The background is too messy. It distracts from the focal point. Overall I feel like the drawing is spotty. Lots of light and dark spots that don’t work together as a whole. You’re making every area in the composition the lead actor. Try to decide in the beginning of the drawing, what is the focal point? What is the secondary focal point? See how in the bottom of the right leg, the highlights are just as bright as the highlights at the top. The lights on the stick are glowing. See how I have the same highlights, but they are much darker. They fade as they get farther from the light source. And the background is clean and doesn't fight for attention. I intentionally made the the upper back as the main focal point and the left foot as a secondary focal point. Hopefully it comes across that way. Squint at your drawing and see if anything sticks out too much that shouldn't be. Ok? So, be more deliberate with the composition, the way you lead the viewer's’ eye through the drawing.

Proportions - Not too bad. Mainly I think that torso is too short and head is too large. Everything else looks pretty close.

Second Drawing

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Ok, let’s take a look at your second drawing. Actually, much better composition. The background is cleaner than the previous. You kept the lights on the bottom foot a bit darker. You faded the value of the thigh a bit as it goes toward the knee. When I squint I can see you've created a focal point at the center of the torso.

But! of course, there’s a but.. I think you still have room to improve the composition. The background could be more deliberate. I’m seeing spots that don’t seem to have a purpose. I think that they just happened as you were shading, instead of you deciding that you want them to be there. As you’re shading, think about how the values in the background can help tell a story, guide the eye, and create a sense of atmosphere. Any texture or gradation has an effect. So, take that into consideration and don't let too many things be accidental. Approach the composition with intent.

You could have made the values of the shadow on the right leg here darker. Some of them are really close to being halftones rather than shadows.

I would have pushed the darker gradation toward the knees even more. On both sides. The tanned skin helps to push the eyes back up to the focal point.

As for the gesture, you straightened the body. You made it more vertical. That makes the pose feel stiff. I like the diagonal in the photo better because it’s more dynamic, a little more interesting to me.

A few things about the proportions..

First, his left leg. You did what most of us do when there's foreshortening.. You un-foreshortened it. You made it longer. An easy way to check that is with a few plumb lines. If you draw a vertical plumb line from the inside of the knee, you'll see it align with the inside of the pelvis here. Continue it up and it goes through about the middle of the head. When we do the same on yours, it aligns with the outside of the pelvis. So what you did was you swung the leg outward to show the length. Continue the plumb line up and it misses the head by a lot. Now that's a combination of incorrect foreshortening and also the torso being more vertical than in the reference as I said earlier about the gesture.

But, down here the relationship between the pelvis and the knee. That's completely a foreshortening problem. It's a very common mistake. Our brain just wants to elongate foreshortened objects. We remember the body parts the way they look in their extended position, so we draw them that way. Using some plumb lines and approaching the shapes abstractly in the beginning will help overcome that tendency.

Another proportional mistake is the foot. It looks too big. Taking the length and stacking another on top of it reaches the bottom of this upper leg mass. On yours it reaches up to the patella. So, it's too long. And the shape of the foot is too thick. I would cut into the side here, and here.

And the last thing I'm going to say about it is that you didn't capture the angle of the head. Your guy is looking straight ahead, but in the reference he's looking down. Make sure you're wrapping the lines around the head like on a tilted cylinder. Notice how the placement of the ear in relationship with the eyes and nose is higher up. And the curve of the brow ridge shows that curve too. On yours, both of those indicate a straight on angle.

Positives

Soo.. What do I like about your drawings? Well I guess everything else, really.. The first thing that struck me when I saw it was how successfully you captured the style in which I did my drawing. When I compare yours to mine I can see that you analyzed it almost line for line. Every stroke in the shading is considered. And it’s that kind of attention to detail that will make you good.

The shading is done very well. All the forms feel 3d. You’ve got all the elements, highlight, halftones, core shadow, reflected lights.. And generally they're all designed very well. I have a feeling you were paying attention during the shading lesson..

Your anatomy seems to be pretty close. Could be polished and designed a little better in areas, but they're minor things.

And the main thing I really liked is your discipline. As I said earlier, you didn’t just watch the video and move on. You studied from it and you applied it. So, everybody watching, hopefully this inspired you to want to do a longer figure drawing of your own!try not to be intimidated about it. Just approach it in a fun way. Just go out, do it, see what happens. And then post it online, tag me in it. So I can see it.

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COMMENTS
Stan Prokopenko
This is a critique for the Shading lesson and generally sumss up all the figure lessons.
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@lwel
11mo
This one is in graphite pencil. Want to try charcoal too soon. I mismeasured a little bit and everything is a bit longer below the navel. But it's not very noticable. Does anyone have any more critiques?
Rachel Dawn Owens
That face is spot on! This is a really great study. The edge control and anatomy are really strong. Her left arm going behind her looks a little small, but it’s hardly noticeable. great work. Keep it up
Samuel Angeles
Didn't think id be able to do it for my first time, I need charcoal pencils
Alan Wong
1yr
Thanks for the course, Proko! Felt a bit handicapped attempting this without a kneaded eraser, but it was fun taking on a big project like this for the first time! I also didn't have charcoal powder so I tried to achieve something similar by rubbing graphite everywhere. Please feel free to offer any critiques!
Nicole Guz
1yr
Figure drawing practice: Jeff Watts study
@bobjensen
1yr
Please give critique, everything from the reference used to the gesture, form and shading. Litterally anything. I don't care if you think you are better or worse than me. Here are the things I have collected: the head is too small, the body is too fat and the legs are wrongly placed and too big. If you have a really good tip you heard a place, say it too. Really anything goes. And it won't hurt my feelings either. THANK YOU
Nicole Guz
1yr
2nd week after watching figure drawing class: More practice! What are my obvious mistakes that can make figure drawing better? Any tips or advice?
Filippo Galli
Here is the final study of the course. What a ride it was! Looking back at the start, the amount of knowledge I have gained and the skills I have acquired & refined through practice definitely allow me to tackle subjects that I otherwise would have only dreamed of. Thank you for this course, Stan! The road is long, we keep on going.
Filippo Galli
And here are some warm-ups I did before the sessions.. If you can even call them that, since some took over 1 hour. I actually skipped doing these for 2 out of 5 sessions.
Filippo Galli
Here are some wips that I took during the process, along with the reference.
Nicole Guz
1yr
1st Week of Practice(after watching the whole figure drawing course) # I have to remember to keep stepping away to check proportion. Is there a way to be better at shading? I am not sure I understood it to well? Ill probably try to study other masters too
@morelock
2yr
Hi all, Another attempt digitally, trying to get more of that charcoal/graphite look and less "digital." As always, open to critique and suggestions. Ignore some of the unfinished areas (face feet and weapons) I thought I had gotten most of what I was going to learn out of the piece. Included my undersketch
faye zhang
2yr
My longest figure drawing ever, it took 10 hours. Still can’t believe I actually did it. Some mistake lines couldn’t be erased completely, so they do show up in some areas. Though I tried to spot my mistakes and correct them in the layin stages, I didn’t notice a glaring mistake in the position of the hips until the rendering stage. I would love to be able to spot more mistakes earlier on, perhaps it gets better with practice. Any critiques would be much appreciated! Thank you Stan for making such a wonderful course, I will definitely miss hearing that catchy intro.
Kyra (kEARuh)
congrats!
Andy King
2yr
Well done Faye, sitting with the same image for 10 hours is tough, something to be proud of by itself. I'd say your proportions look pretty good to me. The head is possibly on the small side - that's an error I often make so it's easy to spot in other peoples work! Biggest area to work on is the rendering I think, the ribs jump out as a focal point because of the contrast (which I assume is unintentional). Whereas in the reference the values look more subtle. The value transitions in the face look like they could do with more subtly too - the cheek bone in particular jumps out. Otherwise, I think you've done great. Congratz!
@morelock
2yr
Digital, trying to apply the lessons.
Arman Jucutan
Hello everyone, here is my full figure work. I'm looking for critique in drawing accuracy and shading. Keeping my drawing accurate to the reference have been an issue for me since I started this course so if you happen to find any issues in the linear layin stage please do let me know! As for shading, I don't think I completely captured the lighting from the reference. I think there are too many highlights and I think my final work doesn't clearly show where light is hitting her. Please let me know any areas of improvements or tips in my shading. If there are any critical issues that you find in my work please do let me know too! Thank you so much in advance, you're critiques are very much appreciated!
Thomas Nolan II
Had used graphite rather than charcoal and disregarded dark background, however i hope the rest of image is fairly similar.
Shayan Shahbazi
Wow...!
@drusk
2yr
More practice. I think it is closer, but I still need work on my faces.
Martha Muniz
Hey, good job! Something I'd recommend as you progress into your studies is to not only think about the gesture and the shapes you observe on the page, but think about the subject as it takes up space. The shadow below the model indicates the plane she is up against, and this (the floor) visibly pushes against her feet and her bottom. This causes a visible compression that you could exaggerate to make her feel even more believable as a 3D form with weight affected by gravity. It also helps to compare features to one another, such as her hands or feet. Right now, her right hand and left foot appear larger in the drawing than the left hand and right foot respectively--so think about how perspective plays a role in what we observe. There is some foreshortening for the left hand and right foot in the original photo, so assess the direction they are facing and how much of each side we get to see. Hope this helps!
@kotka
2yr
Very happy to arrive at the end of the course. Already decided to return to it regularly. I have learned a lot, and discovered that I too have patience for a longer drawing. Before this course, it was quite hard for me. Now that I know what tasks I have and how I can do the systematically, it's very enjoyable. Not 100% happy with my finished drawing — I feel that my halftone areas are suffering a bit and that I have anatomy knowledge gaps. Got the wrong paper (way too rough) and pens (Conté charcoals instead of the Pierre Noire line), and there are a lot of grease (?) marks from my fingers. Still, it's the first long sitting with a figure drawing in my life. Happy to get some input. Can only get better from now on!
Martha Muniz
Hey there! Congrats on finishing the course! You have a great final result. A quick pointer on the anatomy side for future reference--it seems the upper half of the torso is larger than everything else in proportion. I think it's a common inclination to group the entirety of the torso mass into the circle meant to indicate the ribs, but remember to keep into account the space taken up by the pecs, abs, fat, etc. You can add it on top of the ribs and/or measure it from gesture to sight-size observation, but remember to check its proportion against everything else before going into final render. Hope this is useful :)
John Harper
Sorry about the chatty posts. ULINE also has cut newsprint. The 18x24, 30 lb. paper sells at 1666 sheets for $57. That's a great deal at 3.5 cents per sheet.
John Harper
Your price per sheet at Uline is 9 cents for 50 lb. and 6 cents for 30 lb. paper. This paper takes some getting used to, but the results are nice (my gallery has some examples).
julia pace
3yr
Thanks for making this critique available. I was struck by how much you saw that I didn't. Amazing.
Shubham Chaudhary
I'm so happy to be able to finish this course. I had a lot of fun and will continue to now that I've learnt so much. Here's my piece for the shading chapter.
Peter Tinkler
This is the male figure version, also in charcoal. I used charcoal powder, as well as charcoal pencils for this. I've included some process pics as well, as I love to see an artist's working method where possible. This one is on toned paper to better emphasize the highlights.
Peter Tinkler
This one's in charcoal, which gives much deeper blacks than the graphite. I do very much enjoy working on toned paper, as the highlights really 'jump' off the page. I think the back is a little bit more developed this time. Hoping to start another tomorrow, but a male figure this time.
Peter Tinkler
Really enjoyed the course, and although I've still a long way to go, I feel I've improved since doing it. This is my 'full figure with tone' effort, along with a few process pics. I find the muscles of the back very challenging, but love the process, and trying to figure it out is fun. I'm going to try another back pose soon, but in charcoal this time. Happy drawing folks!
squeen
4yr
Excellent. I love toned paper sketches! Charcoal or graphite?
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