Journey 5.5 robo bean
2yr
@silentmoonss
Hello, I’ve been a bit busy with irl lately so I forgot to post for critiques like I should have. I’m still on the robo bean section but have had a bit of difficulties with some things. 1st- pelvic section: I’ve incorporated some critiques like” @Jesper Axelsson” regarding drawing The bean 1st and then Incorporating the box on top of it. I can say it’s help me much better however I’m a bit confused in where exactly the pelvic box would sit in regards to the bean itself. I’ve seen many people draw the bean just before the Asis and others drawing the entire pelvis within the bean and then drawing a box with it.
another problem with this section is in relation to the legs and how the Asis and legs work together in a sense. I know the Asis is just above the legs but Irs difficult like trying to connect it to the pelvic box to make it look like an authentic figure.
2nd- ribcage section: ok initially someone told me my ribcage of to small so I’ve made it bigger but then I get concerned that I’ve made it a bit too big and then don’t have enough room to incorporate the pelvis within the bean(this is related to the 1st problem) so like just have big is the ribcage and how do I know if Im breaking the figure?
please provide some tips for me
Asked for help
@Jesper Axelsson thanks for the help before hope for some feedback again. Also hope you’re doing well on you art journey
@Steve Lenze- thank for your previous feedback hope u can provide me with just a bit more of your insight.
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2yr
Hi @silentmoonss, I think these look really nice! If you're going through the figure drawing course, move on to the next lesson👍.
I think you might be overthinking things. This lesson is about posing the overall masses of the torso (the next lesson will be the same thing but with the whole body). You don't have to worry about the exact placement of things. The thing you should be looking for is the relationship between the masses: proportion & symmetry, gesture and form.
When I took the course a few years ago, I had the same type of questions, worrying about how to place things exactly. I carried with me that enthusiasm into my anatomy studies. But I've recently been guided to work more on the bigger picture, currently practicing gesture and form. I thought anatomy was what would make my art good, but I've found that that's not the main thing.
- To satisfy some of your curiosity about anatomy, such as the size of the ribcage and how the pelvis interacts with the leg, find some reference of a real skeleton (or purchase the Skelly App https://www.proko.com/skellyapp ) and draw from it. Then try posing it from imagination. Keep things simple, focus on the gesture and major forms. Study how the parts relate to eachother and fit together. Watch this video with David Colman The Ape Skeleton, and work on the human skeleton with a similar mindset. DON'T GET CARRIED AWAY WITH DETAILS. Then continue with the figure drawing course, keeping your new won knowledge in the back of your head.
- Highly recommend checking out this Drawing Demo by Glenn Vilppu and mimick his approach to drawing the figure. Mimicking a skilled artist's work can bring good habits and inform you on what to focus on.
- In a neutral standing pose, the hip is tipped forward, and the ribcage is tipped back.
- You could make the upper box taller below, so that the distance between the boxes gets shorter. When doing your simple skeleton studies, note how close the bottom of the ribcage is to the top of the pelvis in a front view.
Hope this helps :) Move along to the next lesson!
Hi silentmoonss,
I think you have the wrong idea what a robo bean is. These are anatomy drawings, which is a different thing all together.
The robo bean is meant to help you relate the mass of the torso with the mass of the pelvis. I drew an example of the robo bean to show you what I mean, and how it differs from what you have.
Then I used the robo beans to add some simple anatomy on top to show you how you can use these to build the figure.
What you drew isn't bad, in fact, they look pretty good. There just not robo beans
