Journey 12: Need help with observation
1yr
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@silentmoonss
Hello. I don’t have much to say other than I’m still drawing more or less. I just wanted to ask for some guidance in this photo. I was watching a proko vid wen I began trying to test myself with some of the bones…didn’t end up well cuz I still can’t envision or even see them. I know what they are doing but I can’t imagine them despite drawing them literally hundreds of times. So I wanted to touch bases here. This was the image I stopped at and wanted to know was that indentation where the arrow is pointed the border of the scapula? And also the second arrow near the top of his deltoid is that where the Acrommion is?
1yr
Hey, @silentmoonss, yes: the bottom red arrow corresponds to the medial ridge of the scapula. As for the Acromion process, you got it close enough: it actually sits a tiny bit to the left of the upper red arrow. The Trapezius and the Deltoid muscles attach around the Acromion process, so we can use their volumes as clues to locate the Acromion. Notice that, because of the leaning (he's arching his back towards the camera) and the perspective (we're viewing the body slightly from above in this photo), the top planes of the forms of the Scapula are showing more, so we'll see the acromion more straight on.
Envisioning the bones on photos of real people is often an exercise of imagination, and, to a certain extent, of memory and logic, too. If we can’t literally see the bone, we can sort of deduce it or guess it based on what we know about the human anatomy and by using other visual clues we see on the body. For example: we can’t always see every part of the Scapulas, but we always see where the spine is; so, from there, based on what we remember about the average proportions and the overall anatomy, we could sort of track a “route” to estimate where each part of the Scapulas would be. Other times, we can use the muscles we see and what we remember about their attachments to track where the bones should be located (as I did in this case).
To develop this skill of envisioning the underlying bones, simply drawing the bones can help, but it’s also crucial to try to learn and remember a general sense of the anatomy, sort of like a “visual scheme” of the body in our minds.
Hope you find this helpful!
By the way, I took a quick look at your profile and I see you’re not currently taking Stan’s anatomy course. Have you taken it before already or are you considering to take it in the future?
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@silentmoonss
1yr
@Liandro hello thank you for replying. No I haven’t registered for proko’s anatomy course just yet I’m making use of his free videos on YouTube until I can afford the premium version so yep I will definitely be taking it in its entirety in the future for more help. Thanks again it actually makes a lot more sense to me now and I’m glad I’m starting to get a small but basic idea of where the landmarks are
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1yr
as far as i can tell the scapula and the clavicle meet there. the traps end there and the deltoid wraps around... the muscle bello must be the infra spinatus... but i am not entirely sure...
1yr
ah... the point is called acromion process... it's important to know for figure drawing... google it....