[Gesture] Am I doing this correctly?
4yr
@mrincongruous
Hello I'm a 36 year old lawyer, trying to get good at drawing in my free time. I started drawing about an hour a day in December 2019, and recently decided to get a bit more structure, so I started Stan's free version of the Figure Fundamentals. These are a few of the drawings I've made. I am fully aware that I have a very long way to go, but I just wanted to ask if I am correctly executing the gesture drawing exercise correctly, or if I'm missing something. Any additional feedback is, of course, 100% welcome. These are the 9 figures I drew yesterday. In total, they took me about an hour. Thank you very much for your help :D
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James Doane
Your drawings are rather stiff and you are straightening up the poses (making them more vertical). That is very normal, but gesture practice should actually tend to over exaggerate the pose not under exaggerate. Also, if you are really doing gesture, you probably are trying to add too many details. Try doing a gesture with only a few lines focusing on the main line of action.
Peter Anton
One quick note would be to capture the angle of the shoulders and hips. Several of these straighten out the shoulders, when the reference has the shoulders at an angle. A good practice is to hold up your pencil to check the angle of the shoulders in the reference, then compare it to your drawing
@mrincongruous
Yikes, I hadn't noticed I do that :O Thank you very much for pointing it out, I'll see if I can fix it, or at least diminish its occurrence rate, in my upcoming videos!
Gannon Beck
One thing to keep in mind is that your gestures are to some degree a distillation of your intuition, which gets honed as you accumulate knowledge. Keep doing them of course, but your gestures will be influenced by your study of form and anatomy so don't put those other things off while you practice this skill.
@mrincongruous
Yes, that makes sense. I'm following a drawing syllabus that Stan and Marshall mentioned on the second season of Draftsmen, which suggests starting with Stan's Figure Drawing fundamentals for about a month, so I think I'll go with pure gesture for a week, another for the bean (though I have no idea what it is), another for the robo bean (ditto) and one more for the last part.
Nadja
4yr
Hi, I would say maybe trying for more ample lines, rather than short strokes may help you with capturing the gesture. I felt during my own practice of this exercise that loosening up helped a lot ultimately even though a lot of my intermediate gestures ended up looking odd! Hope this helps a bit !
@mrincongruous
Yes, I tend to be tense in all facets of my life, not only drawing :P In another video that was suggested to me, an artist mentioned precisely that, so it looks like sound advice, I'll be certain to try and implement it, thanks for pointing it out :D
Carsten
4yr
Hi, I always enjoy seeing someone practice gesture since I have been trying to improve my understanding of it for a while now as well. I believe to see a couple of difficulties I had too, so I will jump right in! (The amount of text is proportional to the amount of encouragement I'm trying to convey - not the amount of mistakes). First, what I learned is, that gesture is not equal to figure drawing as a whole or to drawing things that look nice necessarily. Gesture drawing is concerned with what is going on, not only based on the visible shapes, but also movement wise, regarding force, weight and balance or even emotionally, with what the person intends to do. This is also why there are a lot of different attempts to capturing gesture. While Proko tries to make gesture look clean to some degree, leading to it being closer to a figure drawing, other artists are not at all concerned with that. I recommend looking at different strategies and trying them out. Personally, working through the first 30 pages of Nicolaides "The natural way to draw" helped me immensly in understanding gesture as an independet part of the figure drawing process. You can find the complete text online. Alphonso Dunn sums up this "looseness" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvjB0rj6yAc&t=328s . Just add it to the list of Lea. Some remarks which are more on the sympomatic, less important side: Spending 5 minutes on each gesture drawing is quite long. I would recommend some timed practice with 30s - 2m. You might find, that this is not enough time to put everything in the picture, which is just what one wants, because clothes and objects do not belong in a gestural drawing, unless they help you convey the point. As an example, I think it worked out in picture 3 while you could have achieved a more gestural representation by trying to see the motion through the clothes in picture 4. Well this got a bit lengthy. Sorry! Good luck!
@mrincongruous
Thanks for taking the time to write such a detailed answer, as well as for the encouragement. Probably the reason why I take so much time is because, before I decided to go through the figure fundamentals course, I used the same site to start copying the figures using simple shapes, in order to improve my seeing skills, so now I must be fusing both exercises together. I'll watch the video tomorrow, and now I'll give the 2 minutes pose a try, see how that goes :)
Peter Cohen
Thanks for posting, I'm learning a lot from the responses! In my experience pushing the gesture more extreme, for example drawing more of a bend of the hips than you think you see, makes it look more natural in some cases. The angle of the body really adds to the feeling of movement and looseness. Also, one thing that helped me with making things look dynamic and balanced is having at least one of the feet under the head if they are in a standing pose. Just remembering that can help you push the other limbs to extreme and still make the figure look balanced. I'm 36 too employed as a researcher/scientist, really unrelated to drawing but I'm practicing too after work!
Dario Mekler
This is a great effort. You surely seem motivated. Gesture is something difficult to grasp without some fundamentals of the body first. In my opinion you should focus first in the relationship between the torso and the hip bone. The so called "bean". You have some proko videos refering to this concept. Leave the extremities aside for this task, at least until you feel comfortable with just the core of the body : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqxPHew5bGQ hope it helps.
@mrincongruous
Well, the route I decided to follow is a two and a half year syllabus put together by someone in reddit, which was mentioned on the Draftsmen podcast (2nd season, one of the first 5 episodes I think). The very first part is the Proko Figure Drawing Fundamentals course, which has a free version on youtube. I think I'll dedicate this week to draw gesture, then another week to the bean, one to the robo bean and one for the rest, before moving on to the next part of the course. I do not say this as a dismissal of your advice, it's just that I'm not yet knowledgeable enough to know where I oughta go, so I'd rather stick to one route.
Pedro Henrique D'Oliveira
Hi ! I thinks that the way to go, im studying like that as well, from the figures i believe you're using Sketch Daily right? i liked the sketches a lot man! If i can share some tip that i do, i normally draw the chest then a circle as the lower part, then as lines for the limbs before putting some shape, i think that helps to visualize the figures.
Lea
4yr
Hey there really nice drawings! I can see that you are tying to capture the line of action already! I think what your missing is to be more loose and focus more on the 'movement' of the pose first! You can do this by doing quick gesture drawing which is really effective for beginners since it helps to practice a lot of poses in a short amount of time!  I think you can try it by capturing the essence of a pose  Love life drawing as great videos about gesture you should check it out this is lone of the vids that i think will help you https://youtu.be/5bw3BW4Q6VM Proko's and mike mattesi video about gesture will also help you understand more about gesture https://youtu.be/IyuCq6VWVeA Hope this helps!
@mrincongruous
Thanks for your support and kind words! I will definitely look at the videos... Tomorrow, because it's already 11 pm here and I still have a few more sketches to do :P
Elizabeth H
you are on your way!! Gesture drawing is super quick, imagine a ribbon blowing in the wind, or a dancer, you don't have the time to capture details, or realism. think of movement only and direction of movement. maybe try drawing with the non-dominant hand? The images below are sort of gesture, I can't get away from accuracy, the tyranny of the "oughts". I envy your hour a day discipline :))
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