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Satch
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3yr
added comment inI'm A Beginner And I Don't Know Where To Start
Hi Phoenixx,
there is no set way to begin any art journey. It kind of depends on your approach and style of learning, as well as what you want to do with your art. I can tell you a little bit about what I did to start of and maybe it will be something you want to copy.
I was drawing as a child and teenager but kind of lost sight of it during my years in High School and University. As an adult (over 12 years later), I kind of wanted to find the "fastest" way to improve. I have no time to loose after all. So, I looked into the fundamentals and assigned them a position in a hierarchy.
Since I figured that structure is very important to make things look 3D on a flat surface, I gave perspective my undivided attention for a couple of months. An adventage of perspective is that there is a definite right and wrong. You either got the perspective right, or you didn't. So, I went over to drawabox.com and started from lesson 0 until I had completed lesson 4 or 5. I kind of grew tired of it and felt like I got what I wanted from it, and looked for the counterpart of structure, which is gesture, at least to me. Gesture is almost everything about feeling and movement. And I did that for quite some time until I was confident enough with it. I then continued with more structure and sign up for prokos anatomy course. I have just finished the lessons just a couple weeks ago.
I am now quite confident in drawing people in interesting poses, but am very bad at putting on some clothes. So as a break, I kind of doodle characters with cacual as well as fantasy outfits for fun. If you are not confident with drawing the nude figure, just find some references with skin tight clothes, maybe in bathing suits or underwear. line-of-action.com has the option of only presenting you with covered models.
After understanding structure and gesture enough for now, I want to dive into rendering, so everything that has to do with value, light and shadow. After getting comfortable with value, I want to continue with color.
So, the way I structure my art journey and the fundamentals is the following:
1. Perspective (drawabox.com)
2. Gesture (Proko)
3. Anatomy (Proko)
4. Rendering with only value
5. Color
I am not concerned with composition or acurate folds and clothing, textures etc. for now. I will go into those as I need to for the things I want to draw. This way, I will not get tripped up by exercises that I do not need immediately and keep myself from burning out.
What do you want to do with your art? Do you want to draw characters or enviroments? Do you want to go into 3D Design? Maybe you want to draw your own comic. What is you end goal? Depending on the goal, the skills needed are very different and with it the importance of the different fundamentals. For example, if you want to draw enviroments and landscapes, you will not need to study anatomy. If you want to draw Manga or Comics, things like storytelling will have more importance over high level rendering skills.
Maybe you want to clearify your end goal and we can figure out a path for you.
Noveze
3yr
My main interest is definitely character design but also I want to learn about environments to go along with that. I like the Western Superhero Comic style and Anime specifically.
Ross Cline
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4yr
This temperament thing sounds like the big five personality traits; are they related?
I was actually waiting for them to mention the big five personality traits, but I rarely hear about the big five outside of the psychological field. Whenever anyone other than a psychologist is talking about personality, it seems they always refer to the 16 personality types. I don't think the big five and myer briggs is related when it comes to research but since they both try to measure personality, there will be some overlap in questions (I noticed it most with agreeableness and extraversion). I like to think of it as solving the problem from different angles.
I feel like the pelvis is very small compared to the ribcage. The female pelvis ist a little wider than than the ribcage. With your drawings it seems that they are the same width or smaller. The construction looks good, however you could make it wider and taller.
David Gutmann
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4yr
the back really is hard
Oh, David, I feel you. Every time I thought some part of the body is "easy to draw" I was tripped up by all the information and subtleties you will need to keep in mind to draw it well. For me, I notice that I really don't get something if I press down hard with the pencil and make a bunch of lines that lead nowhere. I guess getting through that stage of confusion and hardship is the only way foreward.
Remember, nothing is more confusing than the forearm, which was an absolute mess for me ;)
Josh mcgrath
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4yr
Hey @Luigi Manese I've tried drawing some gestures of references outside of the proko course and I would like to see if I've learn enough to draw my own gestures
Hi Josh,
unfortunately it is really hard to see the lines you have made as the pichtures are really dark. It would be good to use better lighting when making a picture.
From what I can see, the first one seems good to me. The movement of the ballerina was caught nicely. The gymnist on the other hand needs some zick zack lines in the knees. There is a lot of tension and muscles pulling and strechting to get into such a position and a zick zack would capture that tension besser than curves. I would also have exaggerate the inward motion of the arms more as they are holding the weight of the gymnist. Remember that gesture is not only about flowing, curving lines, but also about sharp corners and straights.
About your question whether or not people need gesture once they are advanced: They absolutely need it. If they would not have any gesture in their character drawings, the characters would look stiff. However they have a good enough grasp at it and the gesture in their drawings is just very subtil.
It is best to practice gesture with broad movements and exaggeration. Once you have a good understanding, you will notice that even the subtil poses have a lot of movement and you will be able to capture subtil gestures as well.
Marco Sordi
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4yr
Asked for help
2021/6/21. Good morning everyone. This is my first long drawing I've drawn with Conte. Thanks and have a good week.
Hi Marco, greate job!
Just a couple of things you might want to consider going into your next long drawing: Unfortunately I cannot make out a clear focal point in your drawing. I assume it should be abover her hip as the background is also lighter in that area. To strenghen the focal point, you could push the upper back into shadow a little more. Also the hair seems to take away some attention as you have thick outlines around the strains of hair and a lot of detail as well. The torso also looks a little long to me and the pinch on the side of the hip could be stronger.
Other than that, you have good controll of your edges, the details on the foot look really nice and overall it is a nice drawing.
Luke Ng
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4yr
Asked for help
Done mannequinization practice from imagination. Critiques and feedback are much appreciated
These look really good. Great job! The only thing I would change are the legs in the last picture. The legs look extremely long. They could be shortened by quite a bit.
Satch
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4yr
Hi everyone! This is my assignment for the hand lesson. I am not very confident inventing light and shadow, which is why I shied away from inventing any lighting in the hands I drew from imagination (picture 4-8).
The structure of all the hands is really fine. I think the shading will be as good as these ones.
Satch
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4yr
Asked for help
When Proko mentioned that it might get a little complicated in the forearm muscles, I already broke out in cold sweat since I personally found the Biceps and Triceps to be not as easy as I imagined. So when starting this lesson I was kind of overwhelmed at the number of muscles in the forearm. Even after rewatching the lesson and having multiple attemps at the assignment, I am still unsure what exactly to look for. Who could have thought that the forearm is so complicated?
Anyways, this is my homework for the Forearm Lesson.
Look I think this lesson is the one I have done the most exercises on ever! I didn't have as much difficulty with the scapulas either!!!
The other lessons?
Oh cool, yeah I think I got it!
This one?
"Oh my God, I have a muscle left over."
Joking aside, your assignments look pretty good to me, clear, clean and checking them with an anatomical model they look quite correct too.
I'm just a bit puzzled about the last drawing, the outstretched arm with the twist and the fist under stress.
I see that you have deleted some parts that I think were correct, a tendon and the final part of the muscle in correspondence of the little finger, probably the problem is all there but I do not remember the reference and I would have to see it to tell you for sure.
Your homework looks really nice! The forearms are definitely a difficult part of the anatomy with all the little muscles and how that part of the arm pronates and supinates. I think the muscles are overall reading really well and that you're on the right track! I found it helpful especially with the forearms to memorize where the muscle originates and inserts. That way when the arm is twisted or at some other angle I'm able to more easily identify which muscle is which.
Satch
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4yr
Asked for help
Hi everybody. These are my results for the Triceps Assignment. I think I did quite well, if I say so myself. At least if I compare it to my Biceps attempts. I tried to really get the overlaps of the Deltoid, Biceps and Triceps correct as I struggled with them in the Biceps lesson. Should there be any areas that I need to focus on to improve, please let me know. Any feedback is appreaciated.
