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@kareshi
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9mo
added comment inStep by Step: 3/4 Pose
This 3/4 one was a nice opportunity for me to tackle one of my interests, concept art, so I attempted another pose instead of yours.
Usually in concept art poses, characters are drawn in a neutral position and the artist develops their costumes and general appearance. I attempted to resolve this position using one of these poses, to no avail. In a way, I am having much more success with dynamic poses than neutral (stiff looking) ones. It could be a mental block, but Im not figuring a way to work from the inside in these gestural attempts
Considering your experience teaching artits in the industry you might have dealt with this before .
Id love to have your feedback on my attempt and hear your approach to those. Thank you once again Mr Hampton
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8mo
Hey! Ya, this is a super common question. I've made a YouTube vid on it here if it helps.
https://youtu.be/a21_BFl2n14?si=khks5-6pNFK2DN0V
There's really no way to avoid a pose like this being stiff in the area of the torso. The arms and legs are another story since they exist with a natural asymmetry. Either way, it's inherently a very uninteresting position and for that reason one of the hardest to draw.
I think your approach is solid and about the best of what you can do. If you want my thoughts on the interior set up, check out the above video. There's some tips in there that might interest you.
@kareshi
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9mo
Since you talked about shape based gestures here, Id like to ask you a thing. I apologize beforehand If you feel Im derailing from the context of your lessons.
Your basic recipes for gesture have been a blessing for me, using the movement of the spine to build the torso and the relative positions of the 3 large masses , head, ribcage and pelvis. But since Ive been doing it ad nauseum Ive began to compare the looks of my gestures against yours for example, and even if it aesthetics is not the goal of a study, I still came to dislike mine.
So I began to drift to some gestural approach that incorporates some shapes and anatomical information, in order to attempt to produce some aesthetic value to my drawings and obtain some pleasure from the task itself, like the ones attached.
Do you think those are in anyway detrimental to the process of learning the figure?
Again, my apologies for bringing this topic if its unrelated to your course.
Thank you for your dedication to teaching.
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9mo
Sure, those are fine!
Look, it's important to realize that there's no one style or solution to drawing the figure. As you mentioned, peoples aesthetic sensibilities vary and that's a good thing! If you feel like moving towards shape for a while makes sense to your development, then you have to do that. It probably just means there's something very important to learn there.
My gestures look the way they do because Ive taught to a large number of students who have very stiff drawings. Emphasizing movement early on forces them to break that habit and be more open to the natural design of anatomy.
It's never a one size fits all or draw like me to draw like me. Every drawing approach is just another tool with some advantages and other disadvantages. Ultimately though, it's your language and the more you add and integrate the better.
Hope this helps answer your question.
@kareshi
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9mo
Mr Hampton, during your lectures, when you say to make the "pelvis and the ribcage kiss" in order to prevent spacing them too far apart (a common newbie mistake), you mean to do that during the landmark stage right? During your perspective/box construction stage, I notice you place them apart again in their anatomically correct positions,so I wanted to give myself a more clear mental instruction from your suggestion
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9mo
I actually mean to do it during the shapes/tilts stage. When you add the landmarks and convert the shapes to boxes it actually kinda spaces them for you.
I did a critique video very recently that might be useful. If I remember correctly, I might show or describe your question. Anyways, here it is, hope it helps.
https://youtu.be/I0ZFeibuL58
@kareshi
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9mo
Here I am ready for the grind, tanking all the frustration of my skill not yet being where I want it to be. Lets go Mr Hampton!
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9mo
Awesome! Best of luck to you. Enjoy the process and ditch that frustration of you can.
