The Basic Elements – Shape, Value, Color, Edge
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Figure Drawing Fundamentals

The Basic Elements – Shape, Value, Color, Edge

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The Basic Elements – Shape, Value, Color, Edge

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Stan Prokopenko
This episode is a really important one. I’m going to introduce to you guys the basic elements that make up any picture.
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jean marc
3yr
hi guys... i was soo tired havent been feeling well... i didnt even finish this... im not finishing it. can anyone critic the pose? and mistakes? pliz keep in mind that my anatomy knowledge is like about a 4 or 5 lol
@lppt87
5mo
so clearly without doubt I am not as good as drawing as you are, this took me 20 minutes and the anatomy is all off. But I cant put into words clearly what I want to point out, and I loved the face of your model so I made a copy of your drawing. Here is what I see off. Your shading is off, you put too much emphasis in making difference in each anatomy part, I personally notice it in the abdomen area and the ankle: I am not sure where your belly button is, but I imagine it should be around that drape its wearing, but since you made so much emphasis on the dorsal muscles it looks like the (chocolate bar) abdominal muscles are off center. Also, the muscles below that drape should be darker. This is where I learned this from Proko and Gonzo, the values are important. See my image? I made a 4 value grid. 1 black, 2 grey. 3. light grey. 4 white. obviously since my drawing is bad my shading is bad, but bear with me... I shaded in 4 that part of the body, the muscles below the drape, and if you want to make the muscles popup, maybe choose a 2. and on the other side where the light hits, the muscles shade it with 3. so in the dark muscles are 1 and 2, in the light 3 and 4. Makes sense what I am saying? the ancle is similar, you made the figure of the bone protution in the ancle truly pop up beatifully, but forgot to shade that area, and sometimes you loss lines when you shade. Also, the shadow of the hand and of the face are in complety different dirrections. I shaded the head, but i didnt know where to shade the hand so i didnt in my drawing. but yours is a diagonal in the head and a vertical in the hand over the leg, and that doesnt fit. What do you think of my opinion? I am not as good as drawing as you so I hope you dont get offended. we can help each other.
Jesper Axelsson
Asked for help
Hi, and thank you @Liandro Roger for answering my previous question. Here’s another one: When practicing shading, do you aim to copy the exact values you see? The problem is, when practicing shading something as white as your paper, like an egg, you won’t be able to do the highlight which is even lighter.  This question came up first when I was practicing shading myself, but also when I read the chapter on light and planes in Hale’s book Drawing Lessons From The Great Masters where he says: ”Begin to make sketches of the movement of tones on the cube, and the cylinder and the sphere. (...) Make a few hundred sketches of such movements, particulary that of the cylinder, until these movements of light and dark become part of your subconscious equipment.” (p. 59-60) If you do these excercises without copying the exact values, going a litter darker to afford the highlight, won’t that mistrain your subconscious into interpreting all values as darker? @Marshall Vandruff, you seem to be a fan of Hale’s book, maybe you have something to say about this?
Liandro
4yr
You're welcome, @Jesper Axelsson! About this question, my take is that there can be various ways to approach values in practice, and it mostly depends on your goal. If you want to train observing values more accurately, it can be helpful to copy the exact values you see; but if you want to do an intentional application of values in a composition, you can tweak, change and design as freely as you wish and are able to without worrying about straying from the reference. If you're drawing on an "off-white" toned paper (almost white, but not quite), you could use things such as white gouache or acrylics or a white marker to put in the strongest highlights without having to tweak the whole value range. Another thing to keep in mind is that all materials have specific limitations and this often requires deliberate concessions: graphite pencil, for example, might not go as dark as charcoal - so if you want to shade something black, but for whatever reason, you only have graphite to draw with at that time, you'll have to settle with the darkest dark your graphite gives you, even if you're aware that what you're seeing isn't that exact value. Hope this helps! :)
Jesper Axelsson
Asked for help
Value scale question: When seeing a value should you be able to name it from 1 to 10? Is it decided that "this value is number 4 no matter what the context is", or should it be given a number in relationship to the decided darkest dark and lightest light in each painting? How do I get this numbering skill, drawing value skales over and over?
Liandro
4yr
Hey, Jesper, good question. I'm no sure if my thoughts about this are in consensus with what other artists think, but I'll share anyway. I think it's always about relationships. If you're painting with a full-value range and you have 10 values to work with, then you can say 1 is black, 2 to 4 are dark grays, 5 and 6, middle grays, 7 to 9, light grays, and 10 is white. You could also be painting with a full-value range, but only have 5 values to work with, then you'd have only one value for each gradation: 1= black, 2 = dark gray, 3 = middle gray, 4 = light gray, 5 = white. In the same way, you might take the 10-value scale and turn it into a 20-value one by adding "in-between" values, then you would have 1 as black, 2 to 7 as dark grays, 8 to 13 as middle grays, 14 to 19 as light grays and 20 as white - or instead, if you prefer, you could keep the same original numbering and call the added "in-between" values 1.5, 2.5, 3.5... The numbering for itself is merely conventional and contextual, and it's only important as long as it helps you, the artist, to better understand how to organize the values in your painting. But, in the end of the day, what really matters after all is how the value relationships are visually applied in your composition. Personally, I prefer to think in terms of range (lights, darks, middle...). But if you like working with numbered values, I'd say having a basic 1-to-10 full-value scale in your mind as a parameter might be a good general "rule of thumb". Hope this helps! :)
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