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@bfizz23
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2yr
added comment inBean Assignment Examples – Tilt and Lean
Can anybody offer general tips on how to determine which part of the bean should be in front?
I've also attached specific examples I had trouble with:
1.) It looks like she's sticking out her hips toward us, but Stan drew the top part in front.
2.) She looks level and not tilting forward or backward, but Stan drew the bottom part in front.
3.) Same as #2, she looks kind of level, but Stan drew the bottom part in front.
Low Horvath
2yr
You’re looking at it at surface level. You have to imagine the pelvis and rib cage and what they’re doing underneath the skin and muscles. You also have to exaggerate the bean . This is also more or less about gesture so there’s that too
Steven Wolf
2yr
First one she is leaning a bit towards us on the top, and that lean makes more of and impact than the raised hip on the same side. Although, I feel you could do it either way depending on which one that you most wanted to exaggerate in your drawing.
The second one she is also leaning a bit to that right side, but the hip is also sticking out that way too. The hip is making a bigger impact, to me, so in this perspective it seems to make mores sense for that one to be in front.
The third is mostly flat but the hip is leaning out a bit towards us so that is the most logical place to exaggerate that turn in the overlapping line. Also her hip in general comes out more. I think it’s similar to how you would draw to indicate her deltoid muscle by wrapping a line in from the contour line to show an overlap. That way you make it clear that the deltoid is sticking out and not just flat with the rest of the arm.
Mike Karcz
2yr
My opinion and I hope it helps.
1) I think the model just has big hips. You can tell she's sticking her top part towards us by the cast shadow created from the top part. The more she leans towards us, the darker the shadow. The fold where her top part meets the bottom part is like a dark line, and in Stan's drawing you can see he marked that fold with a dark line.
Looking at her shoulders, you can see they're slanted towards us. If she were level, then her shoulders wouldn't be at that angle.
I also think it's possible she could be sticking both her top half and bottom half towards us; but definitely top half it pointed towards us.
2) See how her Camera Right leg is straight and her camera left leg is bent? She has all her weight on her Camera Right leg; which will cause her right side of her hip to be raised. Looking at her bellybutton, we see it's orientated more towards the camera left side of her body; and we see her camera left shoulder is pulled back. The twist of her body, and the way her weight is distributed shows she's leaning back with her camera right hip protruding towards us.
3) I attached a picture to explain it better: I think with photo 3, it's following the gesture/flow of the pose to show the hip as the main focus. Her weight flows and shifts down to her right hip, which is raised (like #2). So, even if it's not she not exactly thrusting her hip towards us, it's where all the weight is bared. Thinking about how gravity is working on the body, helps with the robo bean (just my take).
"Well, look at #1. Isn't all her weight on her camera right hip? So shouldn't the bottom half be more of the focus?" In #1, her top half is leaning towards us, so it should be emphasized; but, notice in #1, how the lines on the bottom half are darker? Dark lines grab our attention and emphasize. So he is emphasizing the bottom half, but he's just emphasizing the overlap of the top half more.
I think there's also an element of exaggeration of the tilts going on. Exaggerated poses tend to be more interesting.
I hope this helps!
@capslock0802
2yr
he is looking at the line crease of the pinch on the waist. he exaggerates that line
Christopher Beaven
2yr
For the first one look at the tilt of the shoulder and breasts. It indicates a tilt toward the viewer.
I would agree with you on the second one. She is standing straight.
I agree again for the third.
Here is, in my opinion, the important part. Gesture and something further deconstructed like the bean is completely up to the artists interpretation. Further on in the lessons he has you exaggerate the pose. Yes, understanding the body as a big shape and what it's doing is important but it doesn't really matter if you choose the top or the bottom forward on some the images that are hard to read.
The most important part is that you do all the exercises and practice as much as you can. Consistency beats perfect 100% of the time.
Hi, I've just started the "Figure Drawing Fundamentals" course, and I had a few questions on the "30-Second Pose" exercises.
Am I supposed to be trying to get the body proportions correct or just focus on drawing the flow? It doesn't seem like Stan is deliberately focusing on body proportions, but after I draw, my proportions are way off. (I know there's a million Youtube videos on proportions, but Stan hasn't went over it in this course yet.)
Is it okay to sketch using multiple lines, or should I be using one solid line to draw each part like Stan does?
Have you found it more helpful for you to do the 30-second pose before seeing what Stan does, or recreating what he does? When I try to draw before seeing what he does, my drawings looks terrible. (Since I'm a beginner, I obviously don't expect my actual drawing to look as good as Stan's, but I'm also not "seeing" what I'm supposed to be drawing like he does.) But when I try to recreate what he's doing, I find myself more focused on his drawing techniques than the actual model.
